2021 Dutch Grand Prix - Zandvoort Sept 3 - 5

[Wouter]

Here in 12 minutes the drivers parade, among other things, can be seen, everything live from Zandvoort.

[Morteza]

Reminds me of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes days

[Morteza]

[El Scorchio]

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Reminds me of Vodafone McLaren Mercedes days
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Haha nice touch!

[renault rs26]

You might want to check that claim.

If Perez was 10th then RB didn't lose point in WCC (RB lost 1 Mercedes lost 1) but gained one point in WDC.

Red Bull didn’t gain anything. They lost a WDC point and a WCC point. Perez didn’t score the fastest lap point because they took him out of 10th and put him back in 15th where it doesn’t count. All they did was take away the fastest lap point from Hamilton to benefit Verstappen purposely at the detriment of Perez and their own WCC score.

Perez lost point, RB lost point, Hamilton lost point, Mercedes lost point. Only losers here are Perez and Hamilton, which is good to RB in both championships.They're racing each others, not other teams.

[MV8]

Predictions for top 5?

[El Scorchio]

If Perez was 10th then RB didn't lose point in WCC (RB lost 1 Mercedes lost 1) but gained one point in WDC.

Red Bull didn’t gain anything. They lost a WDC point and a WCC point. Perez didn’t score the fastest lap point because they took him out of 10th and put him back in 15th where it doesn’t count. All they did was take away the fastest lap point from Hamilton to benefit Verstappen purposely at the detriment of Perez and their own WCC score.

Perez lost point, RB lost point, Hamilton lost point, Mercedes lost point. Only losers here are Perez and Hamilton, which is good to RB in both championships.They're racing each others, not other teams.

Mercedes didn’t lose a point. Only Red Bull did. The point is that they deliberately took points from one driver and their own team in order to help their other driver, and all the people who get outraged when Mercedes occasionally let one driver past the other to help WDC (but always their own WCC at the same time) seem to have No problem with it when it’s any other team.

For the record I’ve no problem with any team doing team orders. Just pointing out the lop sided nature of it on here.

[El Scorchio]

Predictions for top 5?

Too hard to call with the threat of multiple red flags and safety cars. Assuming it’s minimal, then:

Verstappen
Hamilton
Bottas
Leclerc
Sainz

[Brenton]

Red Bull didn’t gain anything. They lost a WDC point and a WCC point. Perez didn’t score the fastest lap point because they took him out of 10th and put him back in 15th where it doesn’t count. All they did was take away the fastest lap point from Hamilton to benefit Verstappen purposely at the detriment of Perez and their own WCC score.

Perez lost point, RB lost point, Hamilton lost point, Mercedes lost point. Only losers here are Perez and Hamilton, which is good to RB in both championships.They're racing each others, not other teams.

Mercedes didn’t lose a point. Only Red Bull did. The point is that they deliberately took points from one driver and their own team in order to help their other driver, and all the people who get outraged when Mercedes occasionally let one driver past the other to help WDC (but always their own WCC at the same time) seem to have No problem with it when it’s any other team.

For the record I’ve no problem with any team doing team orders. Just pointing out the lop sided nature of it on here.

How is 25 instead of 26 not losing a point? Feels like I'm missing something obvious or you're missing the other person's point.

[Wouter]

The King and Queen and two daughters in the pitbox with Max.

[renault rs26]

Red Bull didn’t gain anything. They lost a WDC point and a WCC point. Perez didn’t score the fastest lap point because they took him out of 10th and put him back in 15th where it doesn’t count. All they did was take away the fastest lap point from Hamilton to benefit Verstappen purposely at the detriment of Perez and their own WCC score.

Perez lost point, RB lost point, Hamilton lost point, Mercedes lost point. Only losers here are Perez and Hamilton, which is good to RB in both championships.They're racing each others, not other teams.

Mercedes didn’t lose a point. Only Red Bull did. The point is that they deliberately took points from one driver and their own team in order to help their other driver, and all the people who get outraged when Mercedes occasionally let one driver past the other to help WDC (but always their own WCC at the same time) seem to have No problem with it when it’s any other team.

For the record I’ve no problem with any team doing team orders. Just pointing out the lop sided nature of it on here.

Mercedes lost 1 point for fastest lap.

[Mansell89]

Did anyone do Q2 on the mediums yesterday?

[RZS10]

Nope.

[PlatinumZealot]

They say Perez was on track for maybe six points when he was sacrificed.

[RZS10]

What is this about? Did some teams angle their pit boxes too much?