Australian GP 2009 ( finally! )

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meves
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11. Kazuki Nakajima 612.5kg

How? Is he really in the car or driving it by remote control?

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This is getting so ridiculous it's not even funny anymore.. Wouldn't it be better for what's left of the image of the sport if the FIA checked all the cars before the first race to ensure they are legitimate to race?
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autolover
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ben_watkins wrote:
meves wrote:Does anyone know why Williams are protsting agaisnt Ferrari and Red Bull? If it carries on like this the back of the grids going to be full of some fast cars which will make a great race, although we may as well have dispensed with qualifying.
Aero protest according to Autosport
What in aero?the flexible wing?any link?
Yes,we can

meves
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andartop wrote:This is getting so ridiculous it's not even funny anymore.. Wouldn't it be better for what's left of the image of the sport if the FIA checked all the cars before the first race to ensure they are legitimate to race?
Way too sensible, you'll never get into the FIA with ideas like that!

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Afterburner
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I think kers cars woun't hold them only with KERS, i think they'll use KERS very carefully on the start and first laps, then will try not to use them to finish the race.


Now we know the weight of the cars for sure it'll be interesting to see wich engines have the lowest consumption.

Project Four
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autolover wrote:
ben_watkins wrote:
meves wrote:Does anyone know why Williams are protsting agaisnt Ferrari and Red Bull? If it carries on like this the back of the grids going to be full of some fast cars which will make a great race, although we may as well have dispensed with qualifying.
Aero protest according to Autosport
What in aero?the flexible wing?any link?

Williams protest is about flexible rear wings on the Ferrari and Red Bull

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsp ... 969641.stm

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meves wrote:11. Kazuki Nakajima 612.5kg

How? Is he really in the car or driving it by remote control?

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=37358
The FIAsco made a mistake with his weight.. official weights now released

Pos. Driver Car weight
1. Jenson Button 664.5kg
2. Rubens Barrichello 666.5kg
3. Sebastien Vettel 657kg
4. Robert Kubica 650kg
5. Nico Rosberg 657kg
6. Felipe Massa 654kg
7. Kimi Raikkonen 655.5kg
8. Mark Webber 662kg
9. Nick Heidfeld 691.5kg
10. Fernando Alonso 680.7kg
11. Kazuki Nakajima 685.3kg
12. Heikki Kovalainen 690.6kg
13. Sebastien Buemi 675.5kg
14. Nelson Piquet 694.1kg
15. Giancarlo Fisichella 689kg
16. Adrian Sutil 684.5kg
17. Sebastien Bourdais 662.5kg
18. Lewis Hamilton 655kg
19. Jarno Trulli 660kg
20. Timo Glock 670kg
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Timo did well to get the time he did because he was a full 20kg heavier than Kubica and 13kg heavier than Seb.
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You can't beat F1 when it comes to politics, almost better than the racing.

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Paul
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roost89 wrote:It's must be quite worrying for Lewis, that his car was so much lighter than others around him (before being demoted 5 places) also that Heikki was so much heavier and faster.
I am pretty sure they were both light in Q1. Don't forget, they were both refuelled after Q2. Also, I think he could start on softer tires, he will be stuck in traffic or perhaps will loose a wing or something anyway, and then will be able to continue racing on a cleaner track on optimum, harder, compound.

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vyselegend
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For years we were all crying that poles and races result could be figured out before the event, as there was no suspence... I guess we have what we asked for!

I'm a bit sad for Toyota, their fate in F1 is ressembling a drammatic movie. But that's their own responsability. More ironic is if Ferrari & RBR are also deemed illegal from Williams protest, since they were both questioning the legallity of the Williams...

Also, why isn't the protest extended to STR? Do they really have different wings to RBR already? Don't you find it strange that Red Bull's rear wing flexes, since it is connected to the shark fin. One would think it prevent it from moving.

I was first enjoying the grid shuffle, with the underdogs taking pole and all, but it has already turned to the usual farce, where the FIA is placing every contender where they think they must be, without it having anything to do with what happened on the track... :roll:
andartop wrote:This is getting so ridiculous it's not even funny anymore.. Wouldn't it be better for what's left of the image of the sport if the FIA checked all the cars before the first race to ensure they are legitimate to race?
I couldn't agree more. It seems so evident, but I'm still thinking the FIA loves controversy. They don't care about positive or negative, they only care about F1 being talked about as much as possible...

astracrazy
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With Brawn gp being more or less the heaviest out of the top 10 cars and getting the times they did. That makes them virtually unstoppable tomorrow? they must be on a longet 1st stint than anybody else yet still much faster?

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guys i dont understand 1 thing......button is way heavier than kimi......what that indicats ?? i mean so far i knew lighter car goes faster...but here it is reversed.....is the underweight causes a problem for ferrari ?? or is the heavier weight is advantage for bgp ???

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sunny1304 wrote:guys i dont understand 1 thing......button is way heavier than kimi......what that indicats ?? i mean so far i knew lighter car goes faster...but here it is reversed.....is the underweight causes a problem for ferrari ?? or is the heavier weight is advantage for bgp ???
Brawn knows their pace relative to the others so they know how much extra fuel they can put on board and still be faster - they have done so.
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hulmerist
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ben_watkins wrote:
meves wrote:11. Kazuki Nakajima 612.5kg

How? Is he really in the car or driving it by remote control?

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_ ... t_id=37358
The FIAsco made a mistake with his weight.. official weights now released

Pos. Driver Car weight
1. Jenson Button 664.5kg - 20 Laps
2. Rubens Barrichello 666.5kg - 21
3. Sebastien Vettel 657kg - 17
4. Robert Kubica 650kg - 15
5. Nico Rosberg 657kg - 17
6. Felipe Massa 654kg - 16
7. Kimi Raikkonen 655.5kg - 17
8. Mark Webber 662kg - 19
9. Nick Heidfeld 691.5kg - 29
10. Fernando Alonso 680.7kg - 25
11. Kazuki Nakajima 685.3kg- 27
12. Heikki Kovalainen 690.6kg - 29
13. Sebastien Buemi 675.5kg - 24
14. Nelson Piquet 694.1kg - 30
15. Giancarlo Fisichella 689kg - 28
16. Adrian Sutil 684.5kg - 26
17. Sebastien Bourdais 662.5kg - 19
18. Lewis Hamilton 655kg - 16
19. Jarno Trulli 660kg - 18
20. Timo Glock 670kg - 21
okay going with autosports rough maths that's my estimates for the laps

the people with light fuel i'm guessing will be starting on the option tyre as well?