2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

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Shrieker wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:34


Carlos Sainz two weekends in a row now, proving to simracers that yeet crashes are not the physics engine going bonkers.. The person who signs the cheques in the team, might be tho.
I suspect some over driving to make up for the car’s performance. Leclerc has certainly yeeted his fair share of Ferrari’s too. Monaco cost them dearly on many fronts.

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NL_Fer wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:33
Stormblessed wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 13:19
NL_Fer wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 13:10


Nah, airflow under the car and over the engine cover is much more important for rear downforce.
I understand that part about pressure difference over and under the car is important to maximize downforce levels. But wouldn't this wobble cause disruption in airflow near the tires, thereby causing issues with airflow/pressure over the car floor?
The front wing already diverts the flow away from the front tires to prevent turbulence. The rear tires are to much to the back to distort any important air flow. The badge boards also divert flow away from the rear tires, directing it to the wing/diffuser area.
Ok, that makes sense. Thanks

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If you change an engine what is the penalty?

I can't help but think Hamilton could win even from near the back, such is their speed advantage here.

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Juzh wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:03
He did? He was a bit further back than most, but he did. It was his choice anyway how far back he wanted to be.

first run in q3
https://i.imgur.com/4dZLiX8.jpg

second run
https://i.imgur.com/YwAE9Q4.jpg
ok, Brundle I believe was claiming he was to far back!
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Restomaniac wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:39
PlatinumZealot wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:30
Turkey, USA, Mexico, Brazil, Saudi Arabia and Abudhabi certainly look like RedBull Tracks.

Sochi, and whichever TBC tracks comes are the only hopes Mercedes has.
Brazil’s a weird one as after turn 12 that massive long, long left turn up the hill and over the start-finish screams Yippee for Mercedes.
Not to Mention COTA and Abu dhabi have been happy stomping ground for Merc for a while. Imo, Abu dhabi was a fluke last year, they turned the engines down as they didn't want the negative press of a PU going pop.
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Juzh wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:03
dans79 wrote:
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Mr.S wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 20:03
Being ahead of Bottas & within 1 tenth of Hamilton in his 1st Q3 lap was amazing !
Max had a tow from 2 cars, and Lewis had none, that's why we was as close as he was! Did you actually watch qualifying?
He did? He was a bit further back than most, but he did. It was his choice anyway how far back he wanted to be.

first run in q3
https://i.imgur.com/4dZLiX8.jpg

second run
https://i.imgur.com/YwAE9Q4.jpg
here are also the gaps (hand stopped) to the car ahead at the start of the final Q3 run:

PER
VER +2.8s
GAS +2.8s
SAI +5.2s
GIO +3.1s
LEC +5.5s
RIC +3.2s
BOT +7.5s
HAM +5.6s
NOR +3.4s

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search wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 15:32
Juzh wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 14:03
dans79 wrote:
10 Sep 2021, 20:33


Max had a tow from 2 cars, and Lewis had none, that's why we was as close as he was! Did you actually watch qualifying?
He did? He was a bit further back than most, but he did. It was his choice anyway how far back he wanted to be.

first run in q3
https://i.imgur.com/4dZLiX8.jpg

second run
https://i.imgur.com/YwAE9Q4.jpg
here are also the gaps (hand stopped) to the car ahead at the start of the final Q3 run:

PER
VER +2.8s
GAS +2.8s
SAI +5.2s
GIO +3.1s
LEC +5.5s
RIC +3.2s
BOT +7.5s
HAM +5.6s
NOR +3.4s
Considering that in races when a car is struggling to pass and has to drop back to preserve their tyres, they usually drop back to around 3 seconds. This must be the sweet spot in terms of not losing much in the corners, but still gain some on the straights.

if thats close to being accurate then I guess Verstappen, Gasly, Giovinazzi, Ricciardo and Norris all had about the right gap and gained the most.

Then you have to think, what we're the others doing? Were Mercedes that confident? Why were Ferrari not desperate for a tow to impress on home soil?
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Pretty obvious the Mercedes has more pace over a single lap so they where not as desperate for a tow as the others.

Race pace seems a lot closer so very curious what the sprint will be bring us.

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A clean start for all hopefully.
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NathanOlder wrote:
11 Sep 2021, 16:29
A clean start for all hopefully.
Denied...

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Yeah I'm sure the red bull fans will be overjoyed by that......
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I on and Hamilton is in fifth?!! What the hell? Poor start?
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Lovely, and what we will get now, five laps of racing? Another unforseen scenario of this crap format.

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Another mistake from Lewis

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Just a poor start. Winning will be tough tomorrow!!

Gasly smashed his own wing. His fault.
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