2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[langedweil]

So Bottas has two penalties, one him starting at the back of the grid (document 24) and another incurring a 10 place grid penalty (document 33). Does the 10 place penalty happen after the race, or is it irrelevant since he is already starting at the back?

Waddayatalkin' about ?

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... lement.pdf

Decision:
10 grid position penalty.
This is in addition to the previous penalty (document 24), the competitor is still required to start the race from the rear of the starting grid

Ah, thnx !
The CE

[codetower]

Waddayatalkin' about ?

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... lement.pdf

Decision:
10 grid position penalty.
This is in addition to the previous penalty (document 24), the competitor is still required to start the race from the rear of the starting grid

Ah, thnx !
The CE

But im curious as to what that means. Is that 2nd penalty moot, or is it applied after the actual race? If its irrelevant, then I would take an ADDITIONAL pu (a 5th) and have two fresh ones in the pool!

[darkpino]

After Mercedes did that at Spa in (I think) 2018 that’s not allowed anymore. The last new PU is the only one you can use

[pb6797]

After Mercedes did that at Spa in (I think) 2018 that’s not allowed anymore. The last new PU is the only one you can use

I seem to remember Button taking a 70 place Grid Penalty in 2015.

[PlatinumZealot]

So the crusade is shoving down our throats that Hamilton is mistake prone and cracks under pressure. And Max is there to show him up.

OK we get it.

We accept it.

Are you happy now?

This constant perputual mantra of "Hamilton is mistake prone he cracks when he has competition!", and "Mercedes is the fastest car!" is actually is against the forum rules of repeating the same doctrine over and over again. It's just tedious.

Can we move on now and just enjoy the races and the technical aspects?

Members continuously posting the same idea or message to prove their right across different threads will be considered spammers and will be treated as such.

[darkpino]

After Mercedes did that at Spa in (I think) 2018 that’s not allowed anymore. The last new PU is the only one you can use

I seem to remember Button taking a 70 place Grid Penalty in 2015.

Spa 2016, Im pretty sure they changed it after that

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Belgian_Grand_Prix

[search]

After Mercedes did that at Spa in (I think) 2018 that’s not allowed anymore. The last new PU is the only one you can use

yeah, but it was the first CE change this weekend. They didn't do one on Friday (for whatever reason)

https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files ... ements.pdf

[NL_Fer]

Hamilton can easily win the race tomorrow as well. He goes long on the first stint in clean air and he can easily choose 1/2 stops because of the Mercedes superiority on this track.

Then we have a restart at lap 20 and he is ---, after everybody takes a free pitstop behind him.

[search]

Hamilton can easily win the race tomorrow as well. He goes long on the first stint in clean air and he can easily choose 1/2 stops because of the Mercedes superiority on this track.

Then we have a restart at lap 20 and he is ---, after everybody takes a free pitstop behind him.

usually it's the other way around. Late pitters are those benefitting from (Virtual) Safety Cars, red flags and so on.

[RZS10]

I don't recall how it exactly works, was it 10 ICE and 5 for each of the other components? or is it 10 each?
Assuming that Bottas would take 4 components then it's XX places, if someone else then takes a penalty which is more places, is it still just being applied in the order they got the penalty or does the number of places play any role?

[search]

I don't recall how it exactly works, was it 10 ICE and 5 for each of the other components? or is it 10 each?
Assuming that Bottas would take 4 components then it's XX places, if someone else then takes a penalty which is more places, is it still just being applied in the order they got the penalty or does the number of places play any role?

It's +10 for every component now at the first breach, +5 each from the 2nd onward. A penalty of more than +15 automatically moves you to back of the grid. In case more than one car gets this penalty, they are ordered by the time of announcement

[proteus]

So the crusade is shoving down our throats that Hamilton is mistake prone and cracks under pressure. And Max is there to show him up.

OK we get it.

We accept it.

Are you happy now?

This constant perputual mantra of "Hamilton is mistake prone he cracks when he has competition!", and "Mercedes is the fastest car!" is actually is against the forum rules of repeating the same doctrine over and over again. It's just tedious.

Can we move on now and just enjoy the races and the technical aspects?

Members continuously posting the same idea or message to prove their right across different threads will be considered spammers and will be treated as such.

7 years of absolutely dominant car/team does that to the people. And Lewis is making a lot of mistakes this year. Give them a break, i actually can understand them.

Dont be so easily insulted. Tommorow will be an interesting race and Lewis has quite a big chance to win it, especially since Mercedes is the fastest car in Italy.

[RZS10]

I don't recall how it exactly works, was it 10 ICE and 5 for each of the other components? or is it 10 each?
Assuming that Bottas would take 4 components then it's XX places, if someone else then takes a penalty which is more places, is it still just being applied in the order they got the penalty or does the number of places play any role?

It's +10 for every component now at the first breach, +5 each from the 2nd onward. A penalty of more than +15 automatically moves you to back of the grid. In case more than one car gets this penalty, they are ordered by the time of announcement

Ah alright, yea then i don't understand why they did not take the CE right away and why they did not take a new ES at all.

[search]

I don't recall how it exactly works, was it 10 ICE and 5 for each of the other components? or is it 10 each?
Assuming that Bottas would take 4 components then it's XX places, if someone else then takes a penalty which is more places, is it still just being applied in the order they got the penalty or does the number of places play any role?

It's +10 for every component now at the first breach, +5 each from the 2nd onward. A penalty of more than +15 automatically moves you to back of the grid. In case more than one car gets this penalty, they are ordered by the time of announcement

Ah alright, yea then i don't understand why they did not take the CE right away and why they did not take a new ES at all.

maybe to have a chance to move him back behind Hamilton, in case they decide to change all his units as well?

[i70q7m7ghw]

The sprint qualifying format doesn't work. We are just watching the start of the GP on a Saturday.

The top 3 was decided in T1, the other 15 laps were just a waste of time.