Indian GP 2011 - Buddh

[raymondu999]

And it will be the first GP since.... 73, I think? To not feature an Italian. Or so I'm told.

Pirelli expects the harder "option" to be 2 seconds quicker than the softer "prime" (in keeping line with their reversed nomenclature for this race)

[beelsebob]

And it will be the first GP since.... 73, I think? To not feature an Italian. Or so I'm told.

Pirelli expects the harder "option" to be 2 seconds quicker than the softer "prime" (in keeping line with their reversed nomenclature for this race)

presumably you mean softer and harder the other way round there. Tbh, I think Ferrari are buggered here, the last time Pirrelli broke out the hards (rather than the mediums) Ferrari couldn't get heat into them for 5-10 laps.

[raymondu999]

Yes - sorry. Freudian slip with all the option/prime soft/hard mumbo jumbo. Why couldn't they stick with the normal option/prime naming? Beelsebob - we do need to remember though that in Silverstone Ferrari's suspension upgrade helped them with that. They weren't too bad on Q1 on hards in Silverstone

[Richard]

The reason they use option/prime is because the number of tyres allocated is different, they usually get more of the ... errr... harder set?. The compounds are reversed this race so that teams get more of the softer set this time???

I'd rather they simply called them harder/softer for the public as the actual compound and number of sets is only needed for the teams and uber-geeks.

When watching I just want to know if the car is on the harder set or the softer set. It'll make the commentary much easier.

[raymondu999]

richard - they get more of the harder set. Usually; they have 5 soft and 6 hard. Paul Hembery says that 1 set of harder tyres gets unused every weekend; so that means they use 5 soft and 5 hard every weekend.

This weekend they'll have 6 soft and 5 hard - 1 extra soft for the teams; and not losing any harder sets (given that it's usually unused anyways). That way Pirelli doesn't waste a harder set; while (possibly?) allowing a team to go out and go for a run in Q3. Or just use another set of softer tyres... somewhere.

At least that's a theory I put out a few pages back

[beelsebob]

The reason they use option/prime is because the number of tyres allocated is different, they usually get more of the ... errr... harder set?. The compounds are reversed this race so that teams get more of the softer set this time???

I'd rather they simply called them harder/softer for the public as the actual compound and number of sets is only needed for the teams and uber-geeks.

When watching I just want to know if the car is on the harder set or the softer set. It'll make the commentary much easier.

Oh, I hadn't realised that they'd reversed option and prime, I take back my earlier comment. This sounds like a very interesting approach. It should indeed stop a wasted set of tyres being left over.

[raymondu999]

beelsebob - yep - this week's hard tyres are the option and the soft tyres are the prime.

[Paul]

This is brilliant- even Pirelli manage to find loopholes in the rules. =D>

[Richard]

It's not a loophole. It is how the rules are meant to work.

They simply designate one tyre as the main one (prime) and the other as the alternative (option).

Yes it is incredibly confusing, perhaps deliberate obfuscation, but not a loophole.

[Paul]

Weren't they saying not that long ago that they will have to ask for rules to be changed so that they can bring less sets of harder compound? Now it turns out that the rules don't forbid that anyway if you get a bit creative and forget about prime=harder/option=softer designation that was de facto standard for so long.

[Richard]

I agree. It would seem to make sense to have more soft tyres becaue teh wear out more quickly.

[FW17]

Well is pass it on to williams F1 and Vall.

Thanks for the red carpet

The BS was the way you were throwing numbers around. 1 sec, .4 sec etc. etc. Don't know why you have to be immature and go around taunting others and why it is ok for LH fans to get on a high horse after being called for it.

[raymondu999]

The trophy, as inspired by the Qutub Minar tower.

[Mr.S]

Lewis aint winning. This looks like a soft tyre race mostly & with the heat,high speed corners & heavy breaking from 320 to a 90 degree turn,he is going to eat up his tyres.

So even if Mclaren is 0.5s quicker,Lewis aint winning. Besides Vettel will probably out-qualify Hamilton & Mclaren with that huge rear wing is not going to be very handy on the straight.

[raymondu999]

S - don't forget that for qualifying McLaren have one of, if not the, best DRS's around now after Singapore