2024 Belgian Grand Prix - Spa-Francorchamps, July 26 - 28

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such a question, there is a feeling that Mercedes conducted the practices today in a rather conservative engine mode, in addition to the fact that they almost lost a second on the straights, this is almost S1 and S3, but at a low engine mode, S2 also suffers, since there are also long accelerations, I think they can be quite close

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:49
RacePaceDemon wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:43
If it rains then Merc will surely be back in play [-o< . Red Bull have so far been no where when it rains as the super stiff suspension lacks mechanical grip :-? .
Mech grip not such a detriment on a wet Spa but for two turns really. If it rains the aero grip will still serve you very well here through all those high speed stuff.
Yes thinking about it my comment doesn't make too much sense. In fact Red Bull might gain from the reduced kerb riding in the wet? Any whom cold weather is Mercedes' best friend so I hope it comes :)
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sport777 wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:49
such a question, there is a feeling that Mercedes conducted the practices today in a rather conservative engine mode, in addition to the fact that they almost lost a second on the straights, this is almost S1 and S3, but at a low engine mode, S2 also suffers, since there are also long accelerations, I think they can be quite close
Bono told Hamilton in I think FP2 that main losses were straights and that made me more hesitant to hit the panic button.
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sport777 wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:49
such a question, there is a feeling that Mercedes conducted the practices today in a rather conservative engine mode, in addition to the fact that they almost lost a second on the straights, this is almost S1 and S3, but at a low engine mode, S2 also suffers, since there are also long accelerations, I think they can be quite close
While they had the lowest top speeds, Im not sure with the way they complained about grip and balance in the interviews after practice that its down to engine modes. Shovlin also said they're losing time everywhere not just in specific corners

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RacePaceDemon wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:51
sport777 wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:49
such a question, there is a feeling that Mercedes conducted the practices today in a rather conservative engine mode, in addition to the fact that they almost lost a second on the straights, this is almost S1 and S3, but at a low engine mode, S2 also suffers, since there are also long accelerations, I think they can be quite close
Bono told Hamilton in I think FP2 that main losses were straights and that made me more hesitant to hit the panic button.
Mercedes was running a barn door wing so it's not surprising they lose a ton of time on the straights and are ok in the corners.

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RacePaceDemon wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:50
PlatinumZealot wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:49
RacePaceDemon wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 20:43
If it rains then Merc will surely be back in play [-o< . Red Bull have so far been no where when it rains as the super stiff suspension lacks mechanical grip :-? .
Mech grip not such a detriment on a wet Spa but for two turns really. If it rains the aero grip will still serve you very well here through all those high speed stuff.
Yes thinking about it my comment doesn't make too much sense. In fact Red Bull might gain from the reduced kerb riding in the wet? Any whom cold weather is Mercedes' best friend so I hope it comes :)
well a car that can use kerbs effecively in the wet can be faster, you can hook the inside wheels over a big kerb which drags you around the corner, especially at low speed. the issue is when your car is very stiff and bounces off a kerb instead of riding it which can totally ruin a lap. Unpainted concrete that is off the racing line also has a ton of grip and is normally found just on the inside of a kerb, if you can get on it you have a ton of grip and the kerb is hooking you which can find you lots of time. safe to say I'd rather be in the merc for a wet quali lap, even if you could extract the same lap in the redbull it would be so much easier to do in the merc.

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I am all for the low downforce direction here, but with wings like Alpin and Williams, you get murdered in the middle sector (lap time and maybe also tyre deg). Thats too much.

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Max did the longruns with a low downforce wing. I presume he won't use it in the race. To much degradation.

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:cry: :cry: :cry:

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Give me that red flag action

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This place becomes majestic in rain! What a circuit, what a location and a spectacle! =D>

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Dunlay wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:32
This place becomes majestic in rain! What a circuit, what a location and a spectacle! =D>
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Wow! What a spectacle with all that spray!! :roll: It is waiting for a red flag.
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Wouter wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:40
Dunlay wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:32
This place becomes majestic in rain! What a circuit, what a location and a spectacle! =D>
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Wow! What a spectacle with all that spray!! :roll: It is waiting for a red flag.
It's a test of skill! Ordinary drivers end up in barriers and good ones on podium! :D

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Dunlay wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:56
Wouter wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:40
Dunlay wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 12:32
This place becomes majestic in rain! What a circuit, what a location and a spectacle! =D>
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Wow! What a spectacle with all that spray!! :roll: It is waiting for a red flag.
It's a test of skill! Ordinary drivers end up in barriers and good ones on podium! :D
If they even get to show it. The track tends to be almost dry before they let the cars run after the inevitable red flag that always comes these days…

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Might barely get any running if any at all, its chucking it down