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The upper and lower back front wishbones have been profiled to create upwash to prevent dirty air from entering the underfloor:


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The brake ducts are revised and are a bit smaller now bearing in mind that the pull-road pick-up point is under the brake duct this solution would improve aerodynamic efficiency adding a lot to performance:


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The increased wheelbase by moving the front wheels forward creates more space between the front of the sidepod and the front tires giving a better opportunity to control the front wheel wake therefore reducing its negative effect on the leading edge of the underfloor:


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The radiator inlets are slightly more integrated with the body surfaces which will keep the airflow intact in this area. Also, the radiator inlet area is larger than last year mainly for a better aero flow but secondly from the thinking that it could be a competitive season and that when running in traffic you need to make sure you can cool the car properly without having to open up the engine cover gills, something that comes along with a drag penalty:


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Having larger radiator inlets means there needs to be a larger exit as well and knowing that the air cannot be pushed through the radiators instead it should be extracted from the outside by creating a pressure drop. To achieve this they incorporated small openings along the engine cover shark fin similar to that of the Alpine design last season:


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The SF25 has retained the single bib design which helps to keep the aerodynamic activity at the floor entrance much simpler. Then looking at the barge board fence we can see the tip is lower and tilted outwards to increase the front
tyre wake. Further down it has a multi-step trailing edge design acting as a vortex generators thus producing outwash to improve extraction of air flow around the floor fences. The second most inbound fence extends past the floor's leading edge to direct down-washing air flow onto the floor's upper surface. Coming a bit back the SIS bulge is much more prominent compared to last year's SF24. Aerodynamically this directs air flow towards the floor edge and diffuser. The floor edge itself has been revised from the positioning of the metal brackets which connect the floor itself and are repositioned compared to the 2024:


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A reshaped double mouse hole which feeds clean air to the diffuser:


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At the rear, the pull rod suspension top wishbone forward leg is mounted really low, they are probably going for
more anti-lift to keep the car's rear end stable and low under breaking:


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I would have not expected such a big change. Nothing remained untouched.

We’re in the last season of the current rule set and Ferrari went not only for some aggressive evolution, but also revolution.
At the top of all the pull rod suspension, followed by changes to the chassis (cockpit moved rearward, wheelbase got longer). Not to mention the shrinkage of the gearbox housing once again. Ferrari has had the smallest of all last season to begin with.
And what about that masterpiece of packaging? The work around the sidepods including the undercut and the engine cover is a thing of art.
The rear wing is an extreme version of which was on the F1-75 already. Also, like mentioned here, I think it’s a good sign they’ve re-adopted many features of the F1-75. Just shows how good that concept was until its wings had been clipped by the TD.

Ferrari is on a mission. I’m smelling some wins… at the very least.

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What would this forum be without you? Really insightful. High quality content as always.

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I hadn't noticed before, but apparently the RB20 also had similar indentation on top of the sidepods where the outer edge stays protruded, although in the RB20's case is much more subtle compared to Ferrari.
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I also assume that increasing the wheelbase can be the same as moving the cockpit rearwards in terms of adding space behind the front wheel and the tunnel inlets?
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Emag wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 12:03
https://i.imgur.com/fQfWtGz.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/QiQ2xqf.png

I hadn't noticed before, but apparently the RB20 also had similar indentation on top of the sidepods where the outer edge stays protruded, although in the RB20's case is much more subtle compared to Ferrari.
Great catch.

That looks like the RB20 hungry spec, were the gully's also on the RB20 standard / non high DF sidepod/engine cover.

If so, seem like Ferrari combined MCL38, RB20 and SF24 side pod/engine cover for SF25.

Excited to see how the mid-wing performs. Would be great if we see some flow vis during testing. Really feels like the SF25 has focused in on consistent performance across yaw angles.

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Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:07
Emag wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 12:03
https://i.imgur.com/fQfWtGz.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/QiQ2xqf.png

I hadn't noticed before, but apparently the RB20 also had similar indentation on top of the sidepods where the outer edge stays protruded, although in the RB20's case is much more subtle compared to Ferrari.
Great catch.

That looks like the RB20 hungry spec, were the gully's also on the RB20 standard / non high DF sidepod/engine cover.
Yes they were there on the launch car

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organic wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:08
Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:07
Emag wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 12:03
https://i.imgur.com/fQfWtGz.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/QiQ2xqf.png

I hadn't noticed before, but apparently the RB20 also had similar indentation on top of the sidepods where the outer edge stays protruded, although in the RB20's case is much more subtle compared to Ferrari.
Great catch.

That looks like the RB20 hungry spec, were the gully's also on the RB20 standard / non high DF sidepod/engine cover.
Yes they were there on the launch car
Thanks.

Went searching the RB20 thread for Hungry GP to see if I could find.

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Source: https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1813990396 ... 66/photo/1

As Emag said they seem less pronounced but might be camera angle.

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Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:14
organic wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:08
Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:07


Great catch.

That looks like the RB20 hungry spec, were the gully's also on the RB20 standard / non high DF sidepod/engine cover.
Yes they were there on the launch car
Thanks.

Went searching the RB20 thread for Hungry GP to see if I could find.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSyVzt0W0AA ... ame=medium

Source: https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1813990396 ... 66/photo/1

As Emag said they seem less pronounced but might be camera angle.
Sorry, but it is Hungary. Just because you repeatedly made the mistake.

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sucof wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 15:38
Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:14
organic wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:08


Yes they were there on the launch car
Thanks.

Went searching the RB20 thread for Hungry GP to see if I could find.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSyVzt0W0AA ... ame=medium

Source: https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1813990396 ... 66/photo/1

As Emag said they seem less pronounced but might be camera angle.
Sorry, but it is Hungary. Just because you repeatedly made the mistake.
I'm confused. What mistake?

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Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 15:50
sucof wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 15:38
Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 13:14


Thanks.

Went searching the RB20 thread for Hungry GP to see if I could find.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSyVzt0W0AA ... ame=medium

Source: https://x.com/dr_obbs/status/1813990396 ... 66/photo/1

As Emag said they seem less pronounced but might be camera angle.
Sorry, but it is Hungary. Just because you repeatedly made the mistake.
I'm confused. What mistake?
You write Hungry, without the A. it is HungAry.

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sucof wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 17:05
Space-heat wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 15:50
sucof wrote:
25 Feb 2025, 15:38


Sorry, but it is Hungary. Just because you repeatedly made the mistake.
I'm confused. What mistake?
You write Hungry, without the A. it is HungAry.
Ah caught. Food on my mind.

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Xyz22 wrote:
19 Feb 2025, 00:18
The switch from a front push rod to a front pull rod configuration is massive. It's easily the biggest change between all cars this season. Will it provide performance ? I have absolutely no clue.

Serra confirmed it was done for aero reasons, as expected.
Does it not place the inboard suspension components(spring, damper) at a lower point of the chassis and thus lowering the CoG as well?

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I wonder how the flexible aero measuring rake on the Ferrari destroys the measurements... I checked, other cars had a lot more stable ones...

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Watching the images of the car rolling at Bahrein it looks to me like there is a light coming through the middle of the sidepods entry like there is a hole.

I can’t see in the rear where this light come from, so I doubt if it is some kind of light sensor, but it seems to me we can see the colours behind the car.

Have you noticed it?
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