Alonso scored 27 points after the summer break.catent wrote: ↑11 Dec 2024, 20:20
Alonso, you can't argue with his body of work, and it's incredible he's still racing at this age, but this season wasn't particularly impressive. I guess some of that can be chalked up to a poor racecar, and that's fair to an extent, but Alonso didn't have many performances where I recall him having a uniquely strong drive and elevating the racecar. Heck, he was pretty well schooled at COTA by Lawson during wheel-to-wheel.
In COTA Aston brought the final update package of the year which, again, was another total failure that made the car worse. It had so much visible understeer on onboards where you had to steer more than any other team for the car to turn. That Alonso put it on Q3 was a big overperformance already, Lawson did not school anyone.
Most don't pay attention to what happens outside of the lead cars or their favourite team. It's okay to be fair. Not relevant to Ferrari F1 team threadbananapeel23 wrote: ↑12 Dec 2024, 23:23Alonso scored 27 points after the summer break.
Stroll scored...... 0
Alonso did incredibly well, his car was just awful.
Leclerc and Verstappen absolutely put on the most impressive performances that grabbed attention. Leclerc's drive in Abu Dhabi was arguably the best of his career, and the same goes for Verstappen in Brazil, but it's hard for Alonso to impress with a car that sucks.
but like he says it's all relative. so, I just hope it starts smoothly.Henri wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 11:10https://formulapassion--pro-ey-r-appspo ... r_pto=wapp
Fred saying the sf25 is a beast but on paper. Hope it matches the simulations![]()
BRUHFakepivot wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 13:57but like he says it's all relative. so, I just hope it starts smoothly.Henri wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 11:10https://formulapassion--pro-ey-r-appspo ... r_pto=wapp
Fred saying the sf25 is a beast but on paper. Hope it matches the simulations![]()
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it's so over boys...Henri wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 11:10https://formulapassion--pro-ey-r-appspo ... r_pto=wapp
Fred saying the sf25 is a beast but on paper. Hope it matches the simulations![]()
Even if they got some more out of it, it still doesn’t bring front tires up to temp quickly enough.JPower wrote:Have some faith in Fred lol
Although, I do wonder why they’ve decided to redesign the front suspension when they are finally seeming to get the hang of their current design.
Well, it would be pretty odd if he said "the SF-25 looks terrible" right?Henri wrote: ↑13 Dec 2024, 11:10https://formulapassion--pro-ey-r-appspo ... r_pto=wapp
Fred saying the sf25 is a beast but on paper. Hope it matches the simulations![]()
This year's car had some very clear foundational weaknesses that prevented the team and drivers from having anything that could be considered the 'best' car. And having the best car is always the goal.
I understand all of that, just saying that developing a new front suspension with all of the risks that entails is almost a leap of faith at the tail end of a regulatory set. No do-overs or revision like 2023 to 2024. Of course, it could very much payoff and put Ferrari in a place where they can explore new avenues of development. But there's significant downside risk as well.Seanspeed wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 02:48This year's car had some very clear foundational weaknesses that prevented the team and drivers from having anything that could be considered the 'best' car. And having the best car is always the goal.
If 2025 were to start where 2024 left off, Mclaren would be massive favorites for both WDC and WCC. Ferrari has a great driver pairing, but we cant rely on Mclaren and Norris having mess-ups all season long. We need to produce an equal or better car to actually grasp the title chances in our hands, rather than just hoping it slips through Mclaren's fingers in our favor.
And to get such a car with a higher performance floor and ceiling, we clearly need to take some more chances on design. It's risky, but it must be done.
It's also pretty crucial to get the 2025 foundation as good as it could be, because no team can afford to devote development resources to the 2025 car all season long for a title battle.
It’s not like the kinematics of the front pull rod had changed. They have experience from 2012-2014 period.JPower wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 05:24I understand all of that, just saying that developing a new front suspension with all of the risks that entails is almost a leap of faith at the tail end of a regulatory set. No do-overs or revision like 2023 to 2024. Of course, it could very much payoff and put Ferrari in a place where they can explore new avenues of development. But there's significant downside risk as well.Seanspeed wrote: ↑14 Dec 2024, 02:48This year's car had some very clear foundational weaknesses that prevented the team and drivers from having anything that could be considered the 'best' car. And having the best car is always the goal.
If 2025 were to start where 2024 left off, Mclaren would be massive favorites for both WDC and WCC. Ferrari has a great driver pairing, but we cant rely on Mclaren and Norris having mess-ups all season long. We need to produce an equal or better car to actually grasp the title chances in our hands, rather than just hoping it slips through Mclaren's fingers in our favor.
And to get such a car with a higher performance floor and ceiling, we clearly need to take some more chances on design. It's risky, but it must be done.
It's also pretty crucial to get the 2025 foundation as good as it could be, because no team can afford to devote development resources to the 2025 car all season long for a title battle.
I'm no F1 engineer though and I'm sure they have more than enough data support the decision. Fingers crossed it works out.