2025 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[TyreSlip]

Hello all! This is my first post. There is a great pic of Alonso going over the gravel and loosing control of the car... how do i popst the pic? You can see it in this link

https://www.todoalicante.es/english/alo ... 10-nt.html

https://s1.ppllstatics.com/rc/www/multi ... alonso.JPG

wow i couldnt see that much gravel on the tv. surprised there werent more problems than just alonso. maybe helped out by the safety car he caused. it looked like gasley kicked out some of it right in front alonso

Yes, there's a video of it floating around somewhere. Gasly kicked a bunch of gravel on track immediately in front of Alonso.

I actually feel guilty calling it a driver error the other day. I remember when Alonso crashed in qualifying a few years ago how mad I was at Alonso until I saw the engine failed and shut off the car. I said I would never judge any incident again until I had all the facts, but I let it happen again.

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Only AMR management knows if they are going to put any effort on 2025 with help of Newey.

I'm pretty sure Newey will show or did already why Redbull was phenomenal with tyre degradation ,floor design,setup,suspension etcetera.

[SSJ4]

newey will definitely contribute to the amr25. will be a good chance to see how everything correlates with new wind tunnel

looking forward to this weekend. can actually see how the car performs since its a sprint weekend and fernando normally goes well at china

[-wkst-]

Well, it’s now or never with Newey design input for the AMR25.

If we assume that they will bring their main upgrade package delayed in Barcelona (FW rules), Newey still has ~1 month until production needs to start.

[Mostlyeels]

Well, it’s now or never with Newey design input for the AMR25.

According to McLaren's PR, "On his first day in the McLaren factory, Rob Marshall walked around the car, inspected it briefly, and then reeled off a series of innovative marginal gains the team could make." Though I didn't watch the AMR too closely over the weekend, it seems like from the lack of pace there are more fundamental issues that can't just be fixed with marginal improvements, but if Newey could do that quickly it wouldn't take too much away from his 2026 effort, and might improve the 2025 car quickly.

[SSJ4]

Carlos Miquel saying 8th quickest car. behind williams, racing bulls and alpine

Good in fast corners. should go well at china and japan. Bahrain will be an issue

sounds like amr24. but obviously only had 1 race as sample size

[OnEcRiTiCaL]

Carlos Miquel saying 8th quickest car. behind williams, racing bulls and alpine

Good in fast corners. should go well at china and japan. Bahrain will be an issue

sounds like amr24. but obviously only had 1 race as sample size

Aston faster than Alpine, Haas ,Sauber for sure. How come out the 8th ? Alonso had floor damage so was slower 2 thents than in Q1 and that why didn't went in q3.

[zoroastar]

Carlos Miquel saying 8th quickest car. behind williams, racing bulls and alpine

Good in fast corners. should go well at china and japan. Bahrain will be an issue

sounds like amr24. but obviously only had 1 race as sample size

i mean, alonso was stuck up gasleys tailpipe for the whole race until he wiped out. they werent slower than alpine in melborne. im curious to see how they compare to williams and racing bulls in china. i think it may be closer than some people expected depending on the track.

[diffuser]

Well, it’s now or never with Newey design input for the AMR25.

If we assume that they will bring their main upgrade package delayed in Barcelona (FW rules), Newey still has ~1 month until production needs to start.

This Sunday will be 3 weeks since testing. There could be upgrades for Bahrain(6 weeks from testing).

[CHT]

Some people like to think that AN always has got silver bullets in his pocket and he can turn any F1 car ino championship contender by simple sketch and ideas.

AN was brought into AMR for AM26 project and his livelihood, reputation and KPI will depend on the success of AMR26.

From what I gathered so far, AN will likely to be lock up at the factory with his AMR26 project team to develop AM26 from a blank sheet.
Completely different from AMR25.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/adri ... influence/

It took AN around 3 to 4 years at RBR become the team become championship contender, so AN really have not much time on hand for AMR26.

[TyreSlip]

Some people like to think that AN always has got silver bullets in his pocket and he can turn any F1 car ino championship contender by simple sketch and ideas.

AN was brought into AMR for AM26 project and his livelihood, reputation and KPI will depend on the success of AMR26.

From what I gathered so far, AN will likely to be lock up at the factory with his AMR26 project team to develop AM26 from a blank sheet.
Completely different from AMR25.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/adri ... influence/

It took AN around 3 to 4 years at RBR become the team become championship contender, so AN really have not much time on hand for AMR26.

There were staff members from the legacy Jaguar team who were sabotaging Newey's efforts with Red Bull. It took a few years for Newey to find those people responsible.

I don't think that will be the situation here. For one, Cowell has already been doing some cleaning within the organization. And second, Newey will not have to waste time helping to restructure or upgrade the factory like he had to do at Red Bull. Every tool is in its place here.

[CHT]

Some people like to think that AN always has got silver bullets in his pocket and he can turn any F1 car ino championship contender by simple sketch and ideas.

AN was brought into AMR for AM26 project and his livelihood, reputation and KPI will depend on the success of AMR26.

From what I gathered so far, AN will likely to be lock up at the factory with his AMR26 project team to develop AM26 from a blank sheet.
Completely different from AMR25.

https://www.the-race.com/formula-1/adri ... influence/

It took AN around 3 to 4 years at RBR become the team become championship contender, so AN really have not much time on hand for AMR26.

There were staff members from the legacy Jaguar team who were sabotaging Newey's efforts with Red Bull. It took a few years for Newey to find those people responsible.

I don't think that will be the situation here. For one, Cowell has already been doing some cleaning within the organization. And second, Newey will not have to waste time helping to restructure or upgrade the factory like he had to do at Red Bull. Every tool is in its place here.

That is the best scenario, but no hopes and optimism can substitute for the lack of time and resource for AN to develop both AMR25 and AMR26 concurrently. And there is really nothing in AMR25 to be carried over to AMR26, except for the drivers.

AMR26 will be a very important project for AMR. If they do well, they will be able to attract drivers and engineers. If they fail, it will be a big problem for AMR and even AN as Lawrence Stroll funding will have its limit.

[-wkst-]

Well, it’s now or never with Newey design input for the AMR25.

If we assume that they will bring their main upgrade package delayed in Barcelona (FW rules), Newey still has ~1 month until production needs to start.

This Sunday will be 3 weeks since testing. There could be upgrades for Bahrain(6 weeks from testing).

Even if there are some very low-hanging fruits for Newey to harvest and he is already working on the AMR25, his inputs need to be validated in CFD and the tunnel, before even production can start. That's not a process of just some days.

I personally could imagine that he will help with the AMR25, as Stroll will beg him to do so, but maybe just in a consulting role. I guess Newey could be already very useful if the AMR25-team only can ask him for his opinion of planned steps, especially regarding the floor (ground effect). He could help the team that they don't fall into the trap of bouncing again, trying to ad downforce. His opnion about the mechanical side of the car. etc.

[Fluido]

newey will definitely contribute to the amr25. will be a good chance to see how everything correlates with new wind tunnel

looking forward to this weekend. can actually see how the car performs since its a sprint weekend and fernando normally goes well at china

Is new wind tunnel already in function? Is this most advance tunnel in UK? Any picture?

[TyreSlip]

newey will definitely contribute to the amr25. will be a good chance to see how everything correlates with new wind tunnel

looking forward to this weekend. can actually see how the car performs since its a sprint weekend and fernando normally goes well at china

Is new wind tunnel already in function? Is this most advance tunnel in UK? Any picture?

Wind tunnel has been operational for about a week now. It's the newest wind tunnel in the UK, and allegedly it's very advanced. I don't know how it compares to McLaren's new tunnel.