2025 Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka, April 04 - 06

[Rikhart]

Hadjar and bearman are doing amazing work.

Verstappen is just on another planet all together.

[Sevach]

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

I wonder if it will improve a bit when the noodle wings get clamped, right now it sucks.

Antonelli youngest to have a fastest lap?

[ringo]

Severely mismanaged race by McLaren, looking like last year all over. Let Piastri have a go if Norris can’t.

The cars were bunched up and that killed the advantage of having two cars. Pitting one car first would work if it comes out into clean air. Then that car can delay the opponent then the 2nd place pits when there is a buffer to do the undercut. They just could not run that strategy today.

[Tvetovnato]

Severely mismanaged race by McLaren, looking like last year all over. Let Piastri have a go if Norris can’t.

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

The outcome might have been the same, but you always need to maximise your chances. It was clear Oscar was in a better position to mount a challenge, so it would have been the right thing to do. They could have tried, and switch back again in the end if it did not work. Zero to lose, very small chance of success. It’s an absolute no-brainer in that situation.

[ringo]

Agreed. Trying would have at least add pressure.
Lando got close to going below 1 second, but the last sector just wasnt as quick as Max. I felt Lando earned the right to try each lap to go under 1 second gap.
Oscar was weaker in sector 1, and stronger in the last sector. Max would have built the gap and stay head. Seems he also had some more pace in the RB21. That car runs well on hard tyres it seems.

[CHT]

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

I wonder if it will improve a bit when the noodle wings get clamped, right now it sucks.

Antonelli youngest to have a fastest lap?

Kimi pit very late. fresher tires and lighter car.

[basti313]

Severely mismanaged race by McLaren, looking like last year all over. Let Piastri have a go if Norris can’t.

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

The outcome might have been the same, but you always need to maximise your chances. It was clear Oscar was in a better position to mount a challenge, so it would have been the right thing to do. They could have tried, and switch back again in the end if it did not work. Zero to lose, very small chance of success. It’s an absolute no-brainer in that situation.

Yep. No idea, why they did not split strategies or at least go a bit more agressive. There was no danger from behind and pitting Norris on the lap they pitted Pia would have done the job.

[Cs98]

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

The outcome might have been the same, but you always need to maximise your chances. It was clear Oscar was in a better position to mount a challenge, so it would have been the right thing to do. They could have tried, and switch back again in the end if it did not work. Zero to lose, very small chance of success. It’s an absolute no-brainer in that situation.

Yep. No idea, why they did not split strategies or at least go a bit more agressive. There was no danger from behind and pitting Norris on the lap they pitted Pia would have done the job.

Doubt that. Hard tyre was slow to warm up so Max would've covered Norris the following lap, and deg wasn't really an issue which would have negated most of the advantage for Piastri if he went long.

[CMSMJ1]

Don't know why i bother watching sometimes.

The formula is broken for me.

Controlled by Max, poor strategy from McLaren and otherwise dead behind the eyes as a spectacle of supposedly the pinnacle of open wheel racing.

Hadjar doing better than i expected and this crop of rookies doing well

Tedious though. Cars look sluggish, DRS is a regulatory carbuncle that drives dependence on itself.

Suzuka never looked so easy

[chrisc90]

MAX-terclass from Max. Perfection all weekend. Impeccable race.

McLaren fluffed the strategy today. Should have left Lando out a lap longer instead of boxing the same lap as max.

[Cs98]

DotD has become a clown show.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Most probably a later stop would work for Lando based on what we seen with Kimi and Hamilton, Hamilton with mediums got close on Kimi who was charging up his tyres. Considering the better car which is McLaren it would have been even easier than it was for Kimi.

[search]

Most probably a later stop would work for Lando based on what we seen with Kimi and Hamilton, Hamilton with mediums got close on Kimi who was charging up his tyres. Considering the better car which is McLaren it would have been even easier than it was for Kimi.

he would have dropped behind Piastri, so how could it have worked?

[Ben1980]

Severely mismanaged race by McLaren, looking like last year all over. Let Piastri have a go if Norris can’t.

There would be no difference. These 2025 cars seem very poor for overtaking. Oscar would need to come within 0.3 seconds of Max to pass. What I think happens is that clean air in P-1 is more effective for the similarly paced cars to stay ahead. Redbull has pace, not a poor car by any means, but the clean air is probably making things look better than they are. Similar to Lewis winning the sprint.

Race is boring. No tyre deg and narrow track. Cool surface, so no overheating. Championship is tight. Max, Oscar, Lando, George.

The outcome might have been the same, but you always need to maximise your chances. It was clear Oscar was in a better position to mount a challenge, so it would have been the right thing to do. They could have tried, and switch back again in the end if it did not work. Zero to lose, very small chance of success. It’s an absolute no-brainer in that situation.

Zero to lose for who? If Lando let's Oscar through, and Oscar does win. Lando loses loads of points.

If it's a tight battle, don't give anything to a challenger.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Most probably a later stop would work for Lando based on what we seen with Kimi and Hamilton, Hamilton with mediums got close on Kimi who was charging up his tyres. Considering the better car which is McLaren it would have been even easier than it was for Kimi.

he would have dropped behind Piastri, so how could it have worked?

Regardless they would have tried something if they thought they had the pace. I just pointed a situation with tyre difference. 2-3 was guaranteed for them. I don’t understand, if the clean air was the king then why not at least try it.