2025 Bahrain Grand Prix - Sakhir, April 11 - 13

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 21:01
With only half a tenth more, Gasly would have been P3. Is this real, or did Gasly just do a god lap?
Deja vu. Las Vegas 2024. With a good engine next year, maybe he and Colapinto can bother a few top cars now and then, providing Alpine doesn´t screw the aero and chassis too much for the new reg

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1 place grid drops for Russell and Antonelli promoting Gasly and leclerc to P2 and P4.
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:1 place grid drops for Russell and Antonelli promoting Gasly and leclerc to P2 and P4.
Any link to that? F1.com is too slow on refreshing any news!

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miguelalvesreis wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 21:29
AR3-GP wrote:1 place grid drops for Russell and Antonelli promoting Gasly and leclerc to P2 and P4.
Any link to that? F1.com is too slow on refreshing any news!

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Official decision documents from the FIA are posted here. It has now been updated with the decisions of #12 and #63 (Doc 33 and Doc 34): https://www.fia.com/documents/champions ... -2025-2071


Chris medland tweet also:
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
miguelalvesreis wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 21:29
AR3-GP wrote:1 place grid drops for Russell and Antonelli promoting Gasly and leclerc to P2 and P4.
Any link to that? F1.com is too slow on refreshing any news!

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Official decision documents from the FIA are posted here. It has now been updated with the decisions of #12 and #63 (Doc 33 and Doc 34): https://www.fia.com/documents/champions ... -2025-2071


Chris medland tweet also:
Great, thanks

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It seems like a bittersweet day for the big 4 teams

Mclaren: Pole with Piastri but P6 for Norris
Mercedes: penalties
Ferrari: Still 3 tenths to Mclaren and still behind Mercedes after floor upgrades, Hamilton struggling
Red Bull: Tsunoda in Q3, but not much else to be happy about....
A lion must kill its prey.

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 22:40
It seems like a bittersweet day for the big 4 teams

Mclaren: Pole with Piastri but P6 for Norris
Mercedes: penalties
Ferrari: Still 3 tenths to Mclaren and still behind Mercedes after floor upgrades, Hamilton struggling
Red Bull: Tsunoda in Q3, but not much else to be happy about....
Hard to say Ferrari are behind Merc post floor upgrades. Charles mentioned post Q that the floor wouldn't make a big difference here but should play next week. Bahrain is also better suited to Merc being rear limited, similar to how Suzuka suited Ferrari last week.

I would also assume they are still running the car higher than ideal. Charles has to take an alternative line on the main straight (assume to avoid a bump) and this floor was planned before they realized the plank wear issue so they are still not fully exploiting the car. Not sure when that fix is due...but there was talk about Miami/Emilia Romagna for a bigger aero package (pre plank issue).

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AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 21:01
With only half a tenth more, Gasly would have been P3. Is this real, or did Gasly just do a god lap?
The alpine is a beast in the second sector.

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Space-heat wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:05
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 22:40
It seems like a bittersweet day for the big 4 teams

Mclaren: Pole with Piastri but P6 for Norris
Mercedes: penalties
Ferrari: Still 3 tenths to Mclaren and still behind Mercedes after floor upgrades, Hamilton struggling
Red Bull: Tsunoda in Q3, but not much else to be happy about....
Hard to say Ferrari are behind Merc post floor upgrades. Charles mentioned post Q that the floor wouldn't make a big difference here but should play next week. Bahrain is also better suited to Merc being rear limited, similar to how Suzuka suited Ferrari last week.

I would also assume they are still running the car higher than ideal. Charles has to take an alternative line on the main straight (assume to avoid a bump) and this floor was planned before they realized the plank wear issue so they are still not fully exploiting the car. Not sure when that fix is due...but there was talk about Miami/Emilia Romagna for a bigger aero package (pre plank issue).
Merc’s cars have never really preferred rear-limited circuits. Particularly Sakhir. Ferrari have had the legs on Merc in Bahrain on many occasions. 2017 and 2018. Also the year LEC had reliability problems.

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zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 04:45
Space-heat wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:05
AR3-GP wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 22:40
It seems like a bittersweet day for the big 4 teams

Mclaren: Pole with Piastri but P6 for Norris
Mercedes: penalties
Ferrari: Still 3 tenths to Mclaren and still behind Mercedes after floor upgrades, Hamilton struggling
Red Bull: Tsunoda in Q3, but not much else to be happy about....
Hard to say Ferrari are behind Merc post floor upgrades. Charles mentioned post Q that the floor wouldn't make a big difference here but should play next week. Bahrain is also better suited to Merc being rear limited, similar to how Suzuka suited Ferrari last week.

I would also assume they are still running the car higher than ideal. Charles has to take an alternative line on the main straight (assume to avoid a bump) and this floor was planned before they realized the plank wear issue so they are still not fully exploiting the car. Not sure when that fix is due...but there was talk about Miami/Emilia Romagna for a bigger aero package (pre plank issue).
Merc’s cars have never really preferred rear-limited circuits. Particularly Sakhir. Ferrari have had the legs on Merc in Bahrain on many occasions. 2017 and 2018. Also the year LEC had reliability problems.
yeah, I'd say so as well. And while Ferrari hasn't performed as strongly as in the past anymore in Bahrain recently, I'd still say it's a relatively good track for them. Certainly better than Suzuka.

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My prediction for today. A big crash into turn 1. Piastri wins, Charles second, Kimi in third to get his first podium ever.

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Vettel165 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 11:12
My prediction for today. A big crash into turn 1. Piastri wins, Charles second, Kimi in third to get his first podium ever.
My prediction - Piastri and Russel come in contact (one of them DNF and the other to go to the rear of the queue, and eventually finish P9/P10) - LeClerc P1, Norris P2, Antonelli/Max P3

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Did we get any long run data on the hard tyre on Friday guys?

And do we think Merc might try and hang it out for a 1 stopper based on remaining allocations?

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search wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 08:52
zibby43 wrote:
13 Apr 2025, 04:45
Space-heat wrote:
12 Apr 2025, 23:05


Hard to say Ferrari are behind Merc post floor upgrades. Charles mentioned post Q that the floor wouldn't make a big difference here but should play next week. Bahrain is also better suited to Merc being rear limited, similar to how Suzuka suited Ferrari last week.

I would also assume they are still running the car higher than ideal. Charles has to take an alternative line on the main straight (assume to avoid a bump) and this floor was planned before they realized the plank wear issue so they are still not fully exploiting the car. Not sure when that fix is due...but there was talk about Miami/Emilia Romagna for a bigger aero package (pre plank issue).
Merc’s cars have never really preferred rear-limited circuits. Particularly Sakhir. Ferrari have had the legs on Merc in Bahrain on many occasions. 2017 and 2018. Also the year LEC had reliability problems.
yeah, I'd say so as well. And while Ferrari hasn't performed as strongly as in the past anymore in Bahrain recently, I'd still say it's a relatively good track for them. Certainly better than Suzuka.
I agree on before this year. Just from a casual glance at Merc performance they see to have great traction this year, which I thought meant they have shifted balance rearward.

Ferrari for sure have moved to a stronger front that the years previous. The are no longer defined by excellent braking and traction performance (sf23).

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Simplistic view to keep us in check. This year is closer than last year. Will not account for any outliers, safety cars, rain, etc. Final results all encompassing. Will try to update as season progresses.


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