Mercedes W11

[LM10]

Any thoughts on why the Merc’s looked relatively underwhelming compared to last week? Particularly with HAM’s car?

No one at Merc seemed that concerned about the performance, other than saying there were stumped by HAM’s car’s performance in certain corner types.

HAM was in a light mood, though, talking about a “dry dance” for tomorrow.

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

[F1Krof]

Any thoughts on why the Merc’s looked relatively underwhelming compared to last week? Particularly with HAM’s car?

No one at Merc seemed that concerned about the performance, other than saying there were stumped by HAM’s car’s performance in certain corner types.

HAM was in a light mood, though, talking about a “dry dance” for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 5438900226

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

What too much downforce?

[Drica]

Most likely being too harsh on the kerbs and punishing the suspension in high-speed sections while the car is loaded in a turn

[zibby43]

Any thoughts on why the Merc’s looked relatively underwhelming compared to last week? Particularly with HAM’s car?

No one at Merc seemed that concerned about the performance, other than saying there were stumped by HAM’s car’s performance in certain corner types.

HAM was in a light mood, though, talking about a “dry dance” for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 5438900226

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

Thanks for the info. Looks like that may have been a separate little issue for both of the drivers.

Per AMuS, Hamilton himself, and other sources, Merc found mechanical issue with HAM's car overnight and they rectified it today prior to quali. They just opted not to give away the details.

On a side note, pretty nice hi-res overhead shot:

(credit: Ellios)

[Just_a_fan]

https://i.imgur.com/IakI2vZ.jpg (credit: Ellios)

You can see the Y250 vortex.

[SiLo]

https://i.imgur.com/IakI2vZ.jpg (credit: Ellios)

You can see the Y250 vortex.

You can also see where the floor pushes air away behind the rear tyre to keep the flow along the edge clean.

[ENGINE TUNER]

Does anyone know how the "brake magic " works? Is it a type of "line lock" system?

[ENGINE TUNER]

New diffuser
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb69xLdXgAA ... ame=medium

This seems like the biggest change/update on the car. Is it something track specific where they may revert back to the previous diffuser in Hungary or afterwards? Was this change made for more rear downforce or less drag? Or maybe a more stable platform? Does any other team run a similar diffuser already? Is it a copy or an innovation?

Anyone? ??

[NoDivergence]

Does anyone know how the "brake magic " works? Is it a type of "line lock" system?

Brake magic isn't anything near as glamorous as it sounds. It's like a default setting for brake balance. Reduces driver workload through the lap to go to a preset brake balance for certain sections of track

[NoDivergence]

New diffuser
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb69xLdXgAA ... ame=medium

This seems like the biggest change/update on the car. Is it something track specific where they may revert back to the previous diffuser in Hungary or afterwards? Was this change made for more rear downforce or less drag? Or maybe a more stable platform? Does any other team run a similar diffuser already? Is it a copy or an innovation?

Anyone? ??

Nobody here has CFD eyes

[ENGINE TUNER]

Does anyone know how the "brake magic " works? Is it a type of "line lock" system?

Brake magic isn't anything near as glamorous as it sounds. It's like a default setting for brake balance. Reduces driver workload through the lap to go to a preset brake balance for certain sections of track

Guess the driver would just have to drag the brakes to build up brake and tire temps then.

[pierrre]

Any thoughts on why the Merc’s looked relatively underwhelming compared to last week? Particularly with HAM’s car?

No one at Merc seemed that concerned about the performance, other than saying there were stumped by HAM’s car’s performance in certain corner types.

HAM was in a light mood, though, talking about a “dry dance” for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 5438900226

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

doubt it was the gearbox that was an issue with the austrian grand prix curbs, was always the suspension. theyve got a reversed torque arm that is mounted to the rear crash structure and maybe it is this area that they want to conserve. got strong suspicions they are being very clever with that, w11, rear suspension in regards to running a long wheelbase chassis that is more prone to understeer in slower corners..last season, those curbs did not get the team to send warnings to the drivers

[zibby43]

https://i.imgur.com/IakI2vZ.jpg (credit: Ellios)

You can see the Y250 vortex.

Indeed - there are all sorts of little surprises in this photo!

[pierrre]

Any thoughts on why the Merc’s looked relatively underwhelming compared to last week? Particularly with HAM’s car?

No one at Merc seemed that concerned about the performance, other than saying there were stumped by HAM’s car’s performance in certain corner types.

HAM was in a light mood, though, talking about a “dry dance” for tomorrow.

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 5438900226

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

Thanks for the info. Looks like that may have been a separate little issue for both of the drivers.

Per AMuS, Hamilton himself, and other sources, Merc found mechanical issue with HAM's car overnight and they rectified it today prior to quali. They just opted not to give away the details.

On a side note, pretty nice hi-res overhead shot:

(credit: Ellios)

possible breakdown open for criticism or discussion

[Pyrone89]

https://twitter.com/Vetteleclerc/status ... 5438900226

Ignore the first tweet.

Talking about Mercedes, maybe that was their issue.

Thanks for the info. Looks like that may have been a separate little issue for both of the drivers.

Per AMuS, Hamilton himself, and other sources, Merc found mechanical issue with HAM's car overnight and they rectified it today prior to quali. They just opted not to give away the details.

On a side note, pretty nice hi-res overhead shot:

https://i.imgur.com/IakI2vZ.jpg (credit: Ellios)

possible breakdown open for criticism or discussion

https://scontent.fbki1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/ ... e=5F2EF8B1

Looking at that they seem to be able to create massive amounts of outwash, something thought to have been impossible with these post -2019 front wings. This then enables them to very effectively seal not just the immediate area around the back but a whole area around it, creating massive rear downforce like if they were driving with small skirts. You can also see there is very little air going from the rear wheels under the diffuser. It is going straight back. It is also a heads up on 2021: they apparently don't need the floor edges to effectively seal because of the big outwash. For 2021 this means they will not lose as much downforce as competitors that do not have this outwash and rely on the floor edges (that are going to get cut big time) to do the sealing. Basically this car is 2021 proof. Very impressive engineering and points to why this car is so good in all conditions.