2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[CjC]

Have they deleted ‘leave a cars width of track for the other driver’ out of the rules?
I read an article this season about Max’ racecraft and the stewards had to re- write a rule just for Max Verstappen I think

[madsonit]

There's the regular F1 rulebook and there's the Max Verstappen F1 rulebook. They co-exist and are applied differently.

[FittingMechanics]

Hopefully this reminds Norris on how he needs to race Verstappen.

[Swed3121]

It was hard to get past Max, just dropping back would likely have been thecsame result. So going for 5 seconds gap was probably the best option.

Maybe the team should just factor this into and get Lando to overtake off the track.

Btw at least Lando lost only 3 points to Verstappen. If this was for the win it would be 7 points.

Ok? So we should just accept that someone else is a menace and dangerous on track and just be ok with that?

[Swed3121]

Hopefully this reminds Norris on how he needs to race Verstappen.

Make sure to take him out, next time, it’s the max way so surely he can’t complain if we do it to him

[blastdoman]

Lando is suffering the same things Lewis suffered years before. Zero friendships and if he has to do same that Silverstone...ahead.

[mwillems]

Have they deleted ‘leave a cars width of track for the other driver’ out of the rules?
I read an article this season about Max’ racecraft and the stewards had to re- write a rule just for Max Verstappen I think

You need to be further ahead to get that.

That corner is such that if you're on the inside you can easily manage the space before the apex.

[FittingMechanics]

Have they deleted ‘leave a cars width of track for the other driver’ out of the rules?
I read an article this season about Max’ racecraft and the stewards had to re- write a rule just for Max Verstappen I think

That's what frustrates me the most. Not only does Max not leave space to the other driver, he doesn't even make the corner. And instead of him getting a penalty for illegal defense he benefits because other driver gets a track limits violation and sometimes a penalty for overtaking off the track.

Ridiculous. I know WDC is an almost impossible feat this year but it would be real karma if he got punted off in some of the next races and Lando clinched it.

[Marc.W]

So Max thinks that the penalty was for track limits, not overtaking off track

[proteus]

Damn shame...Stewards should try to figure it out that divebomb defending is also unfair. Both should get 5 sec penalties if they are so trigger happy about it. Mclaren should appeal, but i think the decision is final. These moves are very dirty though, and dangerous as well.

[McL-H]

This is such bullshit. But I think the team was right in trying to go ahead and drive off.

Verstappen lets his brakes off so he gets to the apex first but then he forces you off. That is clearly abusing the system. Either start giving penalties to Verstappen for forcing people off or don't give penalties when people go off because he forced them.

That is such a bullshit move.

He's been driving like this since he got to F1, and people think it's "Great Racing" when it's actually just bad racing

It actually is great racing and that’s why he is the best driver in current F1. He knows what the rules are and he takes full advantage out of the holes that are in it. Obviously it is ridiculous it works like this. But it is Max his job to take any advantage he can get and that is what the greats of this sport have always done. That’s why people hated Senna and Schumacher too.

[madsonit]

Can the team actually do something about it post race and appeal the decision?

[Xero]

Frustrating. Failing to differentiate between what Russell did and what Max did. One a penalty for forcing a driver off, the other fair game and track limits. Inconsistencies are terrible!

[Darth-Piekus]

So should Mclaren from now on use Oscar Piastri as a kamikaze to cause Max Verstappen a DNF or two using holes in the rules?

[FittingMechanics]

Have they deleted ‘leave a cars width of track for the other driver’ out of the rules?
I read an article this season about Max’ racecraft and the stewards had to re- write a rule just for Max Verstappen I think

You need to be further ahead to get that.

That corner is such that if you're on the inside you can easily manage the space before the apex.

But Norris was ahead if Max braked to make the corner (and especially if he leaves enough space).

What Max does is perfect to abuse the rule book. He brakes to stay alongside the other driver, then drives to the edge of the track (or beyond). You can't fight against that. If you go deep on the brakes he just goes deeper and both of you go off track. If you go early on the brakes, he brakes alongside you and blocks you that way.

Only way to beat him is to go to the inside. When that happens he usually lets his brakes off and then claims he was "ahead at the apex" or forced off.

All of this happened in Austria.