2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[geogate]

it would be interesting to compare speed trap times where DRS not in use, as Mclaren were saying the new wing was about optimising DRS

[BMMR61]

I don’t understand. What do you mean?

Wearing your heart on your sleeve leaves you vulnerable - that's what I mean. Like even today with a great P2 on the Sprint grid he wore his heart on his sleeve and revealed the inner pessimist (and I had the sound down, but it was obvious)! He can say as much as he likes "that's just me", about being the glass half empty guy, but it's a negative attitude, not a fighting one. He is a great talent and then makes himself a target for all sorts of rubbish by what he says and the "stinking thinking". Driver psychology is an important area - it isn't you've either got it or not. If you haven't got it, you need to work on it. As a person and a driver Lando continually disappoints me that he hasn't conquered this stuff. I suspect he has found a kindred spirit in Will Joseph who protects this mindset and they both end up with muddled thinking. But I'm not there so I'm only making an educated guess.

Everybody works differently. Some people motivate themselves by telling themselves they are the best and some do it by constantly telling themselves they need to improve. Don't assume to know his mindset.

As I said, "I'm not there so I'm only making an educated guess." If you look at how Lando keeps looking like poor Lando the victim, how can that present a good front, especially when you're against cocky Max, or even inexperienced, calm mindset teammate Oscar? It's never too late to take a new mindset but I don't see Lando getting the mind management that would help him strengthen.

[BMMR61]

car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.

8 if McLaren continues to demonstrate that they mediocre in managing interests of the team, otherwise it should be 10.

Mediocre? Like agreeing with some people who think race 13/24 is time to impose team orders. This has always been the team of "let the drivers race".

[Dunlay]

car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.

8 if McLaren continues to demonstrate that they mediocre in managing interests of the team, otherwise it should be 10.

Mediocre? Like agreeing with some people who think race 13/24 is time to impose team orders. This has always been the team of "let the drivers race".

Once you know your second driver loses his speed for 2/3rd of the season, that's not the time to be "let the drivers race" team. Once in a blue moon if the second driver is clicking, that's not a good reason to compromise the interests of the driver that is challenging for WDC. Some pragmatism helps here.

[CjC]

it would be interesting to compare speed trap times where DRS not in use, as Mclaren were saying the new wing was about optimising DRS

Page 68 of the MCL38 thread there is a table of the top speeds from FP1 for what it’s worth

[Ground Effect]

What to do about Gabriel Bortoleto?

[Mcl_G10]

Car looks great and we really could have done with stable conditions to bring home maximum points in the sprint and the race but the rain will really make this a lottery.
Without it I'd have been pretty confident of a sizeable points swing in landos and mclarens favour (around 20pts to max and similar to ferrari in constructors).

The new wing really does seem to be helping. We are fast in the low/medium corners aswell as the straights.
I think we can see now how the new wing may compliment the rest of the upgrades. It was mentioned a few weeks ago that the first parts of the upgrade didn't necessarily bring much time but I think it enabled a step change once combined with the rest of the parts as they arrived to the track.
Lastly I'm pleased to hear stella happy and stating that the upgrades bode well for next seasons development. This should see us right at the front from the off next season. Whilst not adding much performance itself the floor when added did not cause any of the problems others have faced.

[mwillems]

I don’t understand. What do you mean?

Wearing your heart on your sleeve leaves you vulnerable - that's what I mean. Like even today with a great P2 on the Sprint grid he wore his heart on his sleeve and revealed the inner pessimist (and I had the sound down, but it was obvious)! He can say as much as he likes "that's just me", about being the glass half empty guy, but it's a negative attitude, not a fighting one. He is a great talent and then makes himself a target for all sorts of rubbish by what he says and the "stinking thinking". Driver psychology is an important area - it isn't you've either got it or not. If you haven't got it, you need to work on it. As a person and a driver Lando continually disappoints me that he hasn't conquered this stuff. I suspect he has found a kindred spirit in Will Joseph who protects this mindset and they both end up with muddled thinking. But I'm not there so I'm only making an educated guess.

Everybody works differently. Some people motivate themselves by telling themselves they are the best and some do it by constantly telling themselves they need to improve. Don't assume to know his mindset.

It's not about spurring himself on, it's about how he lets his emotions get the better of him which is evidenced in his driving by his own admission and the fact that it is well evidenced by sports psychologists the world over, that that belief that sometimes spills into.arrogance that you are the best is what often separates the best from the rest, and makes leaders.

Max gets angry but he drives in a very cold, hard, uncompromising and calculating way. Lando just doesn't have that mentality yet. If you have a car that is one second you don't need it, but when you're in a battle you need warriors, and that he is not.

[BMMR61]

Mwillems - I so agree. Those who are arguing that Lando should, in essence, continue to "be himself" don't believe in the conscious processs of mental self improvement. It seems so obvious that Lando is not maximising his tremendous natural ability and is allowing ingrained and unhelpful though patterns to undermine him. Among the top drivers he's probably the only one not to cross over this threshold - Charles had to do it. Mika did it. It's so obvious when you know what to look for. It's why Oscar, in spite of his inexperience, shows the calm, tough mindset which will very likely propel him into the top shelf of drivers once he has mastered the dark, round, black art or Pirelli management which he is well on the way to achieving.

It's not a case of favouring one driver over another, they're both my guys, just one seems to be shunning or not seeking the mind management expert help he needs to beat the best guys in battle. I don't want to keep hearing his moaning and excuse making, he has it all in front of him now, time to get it done.

[Balalu]

“When the McLarens went past, we were treated to a fireworks display,” joked Red Bull team boss Christian Horner.

Ferrari boss Frederic Vasseur agreed: “If everyone ran as low as McLaren did in the practice session, they wouldn’t legally make it through the sprint.”

[avantman]

Yes, that struck me as well watching quali yesterday. and not for the first time we see that, not just in qualifying but in the beginning of races as well. no other car produces that many sparks.

[CjC]

Are they suggesting that the Mclaren is too low and potentially running the risk of a DSQ?
Or are they suggesting that Mclaren can run lower than the others somehow… nudge, nudge, wink, wink FIA?

[Darth-Piekus]

We have dry weather today so the sprint can go normally. Hopefully no rain comes in 23 or so minutes.

This is off topic also here but anyone else having lag when posting and sometimes bad gateway?

[FittingMechanics]

We have dry weather today so the sprint can go normally. Hopefully no rain comes in 23 or so minutes.

This is off topic also here but anyone else having lag when posting and sometimes bad gateway?

Yes, F1 Technical has technical issues.

[Darth-Piekus]

It's starting. For once we need a clean start to secure 1-2 and my opinion focus on WCC and forget team orders. 1 point isn't gonna make a difference.