2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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They need to talk about the start for tomorrow so Lando can get ahead and piastri slows down verstappen

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My opinion is focus on the WCC. No need to play the No.1 and No.2. If Lando can pass Oscar he has to work it himself. After all I don't think 1 point difference might count.

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Really happy not only with the result, but with the form McLaren is showing. I think tomorrow is about the team, with P1-P2 (doesn't matter the order) helping WCC.
On Sunday will be a diffrent picture and think there Oscar should help Lando, if the case.

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car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.

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venkyhere wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:35
car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.
8+25...cause 2 laps to go at least Perez, Tsunoda and Lawson will pit for new softs :D

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SilviuAgo wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:39
venkyhere wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:35
car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.
8+25...cause 2 laps to go at least Perez, Tsunoda and Lawson will pit for new softs :D
Tragic but true :oops:

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Courtesy Formula Data Analysis:

🟠McLaren's new wing finally reduced their drag - but their downforce was still excellent!
🔴Leclerc's exit from T12 was excellent, but they now have a top speed deficit (-3km/h) vs McL
🔵Verstappen: excellent braking;
⚪️Bearman: highest top speed

McL dominated Sectors 1 (where Ferrari struggled) and 2 (Excellent downforce with the new wing!)
LEC and BEA quicker than PIA in S3 (where VER struggled)

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Good signs, two good laps. Big opportunity to make a Constructors Championship statement.

Of course the weather will test everyone but we look good in high downforce areas and our two are good rain drivers- the issue is Max can likely get on the podium in the rain.

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Mansell89 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 22:41
Good signs, two good laps. Big opportunity to make a Constructors Championship statement.

Of course the weather will test everyone but we look good in high downforce areas and our two are good rain drivers- the issue is Max can likely get on the podium in the rain.
Focus on WCC. To get WDC you need luck and other drivers to beat Max. Just focus on getting 1-2 and ignore the rest.

I'm worried Max will go banzai into first corner tomorrow.

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I knew McLaren were going to be good in SQ since early in FP1.

In FP1 they went out, set quick laps and started the race runs early. You could tell they felt confident.

It's a pitty that when McLaren is so good here, rain (probably) comes along throwing spanners at their wheels.
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The new rear and beam wing combo is working well - thanks to the excellent correlation with MTC guys. The McLarens are dominant in the slow-mediums of sector 1 as well as top speed - an unbeatable combination. I'm not saying the papaya cars are unbeatable, just looking very very good atm.

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Balalu wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 02:09
I knew McLaren were going to be good in SQ since early in FP1.

In FP1 they went out, set quick laps and started the race runs early. You could tell they felt confident.

It's a pitty that when McLaren is so good here, rain (propably) comes along throwing spanners at their wheels.
Yeah and McLaren have had poor luck with weather when in dominating positions - Canada, Silverstone.

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McL-H wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 14:23
BMMR61 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:37
mwillems wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:24
Indeed. I'm not sure what Red Bull are up to, but there is part of me that thinks they are holding on for the WDC and focussed on 25 earlier than the others so they can focus on the 26 car earlier than the others.

Re: the drivers. I will never agree that in the absence of one driver being able to assert himself on the team and make himself a number 1 driver that it should happen artificially. If Oscar is taking points from Lando, it's because Lando isn't doing a good enough job to prevent it and there lies the issue.

I have huge respect for Lando, the team and their approach to racing. Only thing I'd ask of Lando is if he were a bit more robust and savvy on track and he stepped up on that last weekend.
Only thing I'd add to that is that he keep his tongue under control, it's his weakness, or at the very least, where he displays his weakness. He seems to be one of the most active social media posters on the current grid and he regularly posts things that are just fodder for his oponents.
I don’t understand. What do you mean?
Wearing your heart on your sleeve leaves you vulnerable - that's what I mean. Like even today with a great P2 on the Sprint grid he wore his heart on his sleeve and revealed the inner pessimist (and I had the sound down, but it was obvious)! He can say as much as he likes "that's just me", about being the glass half empty guy, but it's a negative attitude, not a fighting one. He is a great talent and then makes himself a target for all sorts of rubbish by what he says and the "stinking thinking". Driver psychology is an important area - it isn't you've either got it or not. If you haven't got it, you need to work on it. As a person and a driver that I really like, Lando continually disappoints me that he hasn't conquered this stuff. I suspect he has found a kindred spirit in Will Joseph who protects this mindset and they both end up with muddled thinking. But I'm not there so I'm only making an educated guess.

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BMMR61 wrote:
02 Nov 2024, 03:02
McL-H wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 14:23
BMMR61 wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 12:37


Only thing I'd add to that is that he keep his tongue under control, it's his weakness, or at the very least, where he displays his weakness. He seems to be one of the most active social media posters on the current grid and he regularly posts things that are just fodder for his oponents.
I don’t understand. What do you mean?
Wearing your heart on your sleeve leaves you vulnerable - that's what I mean. Like even today with a great P2 on the Sprint grid he wore his heart on his sleeve and revealed the inner pessimist (and I had the sound down, but it was obvious)! He can say as much as he likes "that's just me", about being the glass half empty guy, but it's a negative attitude, not a fighting one. He is a great talent and then makes himself a target for all sorts of rubbish by what he says and the "stinking thinking". Driver psychology is an important area - it isn't you've either got it or not. If you haven't got it, you need to work on it. As a person and a driver Lando continually disappoints me that he hasn't conquered this stuff. I suspect he has found a kindred spirit in Will Joseph who protects this mindset and they both end up with muddled thinking. But I'm not there so I'm only making an educated guess.
Everybody works differently. Some people motivate themselves by telling themselves they are the best and some do it by constantly telling themselves they need to improve. Don't assume to know his mindset.

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venkyhere wrote:
01 Nov 2024, 21:35
car is 0.25s faster than the best qualifier on the grid in a ferrari, over a 69 second lap.
There is atleast 0.6s-0.7s advantage in race pace in this car. Minimum.

If Norris doesn't grab 8+26 points over this weekend, it will be a tragedy.
8 if McLaren continues to demonstrate that they mediocre in managing interests of the team, otherwise it should be 10.