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Yes unfortunately for the others, that final high speed corner is right in RB's wheelhouse. If it's not a flat corner for everyone, RB will be taking chunks of time there, nevermind down the straight with a greater DRS effect due to higher speeds.

Will everyone still use high df wings despite the final corner having changed? I think RB will run with same config as Bahrain - high df BW and med df RW

[chrisc90]

Probably a easy 1/2 million down the toilet this weekend from the damage of Checo. The team are right to look upset IMHO. Only given is that upgrades are less likely due to the development time which might mean that there is 1 or 2 smaller upgrades less likely to hit the track this season. That could be the only saving grace given there is probably a bit less budget on new/upgrade parts and focused more on the development in the key areas.

Phenomenal drive from Max today. Controlled the pace and managed the tyres to the pit stop (somehow) and was extremely lucky with the rain shower when it did. 5-10minutes later and probably would have needed a additional stop which would have dropped him right in the mix with Alonso.

Dismal weekend for checo - He had a excellent chance to start on the front row - or 2nd and continue his battle for WDC, but having thrown away valuable points this weekend, its not looking good for him. Early days - but Max is highly unlikely to drop any points - only if theres a incident putting him out the race or a DNF. Max is just too consistent to have ups and downs on race weekends. I cant even remember the last time he dropped any meaningful points.

[KimiRai]

Worst thing that happened this weekend to RB was revealing the floor, not the financial costs of Checo.

[Sieper]

To me he was unlucky with the rain. Otherwise he could have pitted for whites much earlier. Having like a 9 second gap I think he could have still survived a VSC pit stop for Alonso.

[zibby43]

I’m enjoying seeing RB’s level of dominance from a pure engineering achievement perspective.

[chrisc90]

Worst thing that happened this weekend to RB was revealing the floor, not the financial costs of Checo.

Whilst not optimal to show it off in that way - I really dont think there is any real 'secrets' to our floor. Certainly nothing the other teams wont know already. Unless they can accurately model the RB19 in CFD (which takes a lot of time for other teams - and no guarantee of the same results) then they really need to know the full picture of the flow around the car.

I think the video in the W14 thread I posted from someone compared the floors and some of the base features they have, such as the double diffuser kick, turning vanes and large throat of the floor.

[AR3-GP]

How many hundred thousands of dollars did Sergio burn this weekend? Incredible.

and add another 100K for a front wing in the race today, in addition to basically getting a brand new car after qualifying.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxNiEwsXoAE ... name=large

I think that's why Newey had that disappointed look yesterday. Money his team need for development is going down the drain.

The gap now is 39 points. Perez isn't going to perform miracles to remove that deficit. It makes no sense to let him do these overzealous things in his impossible pursuit to match or challenge Max. Horner should ask him to behave and back off and play his normal, more apt second fiddle role to secure both championships without anymore damages. It helps focus the money on developing the car.

I would agree. Checo still has to work on finishing P2 in the WDC for the first time in his life. If he continues to put in weekends like this, he might find himself behind Alonso by the end of the season. Just as he found himself behind Leclerc at the end of last year. With RB's curtailed development time, there is a real concern that RB's performance advantage will dwindle and he will be under heavy fire from the likes of Alonso and Hamilton.

[Juzh]

Aston really let RB off the hook. If they put inters on alonso's car during first pit stop it'd be game over as Verstappen's inlap was 20s (!!!) slower on grained meds compared to inter running. Fortunately they decided ferrari strats are best and put him on mediums in flood conditions. After that it looked like fernando enjoyed downpour much more than Max, able to close in considerably, however once it stopped raining hard Max was able to stretch his legs.

[KimiRai]

Aston really let RB off the hook. If they put inters on alonso's car during first pit stop it'd be game over as Verstappen's inlap was 20s (!!!) slower on grained meds compared to inter running. Fortunately they decided ferrari strats are best and put him on mediums in flood conditions. After that it looked like fernando enjoyed downpour much more than Max, able to close in considerably, however once it stopped raining hard Max was able to stretch his legs.

Strategy mistake or not, the faster car finished ahead. Red Bull is just in another league in race pace as we've seen all races this year.

[Edax]

Worst thing that happened this weekend to RB was revealing the floor, not the financial costs of Checo.

May not be. You can almost imagine what was going down in the engineering rooms of the competitors. First the anticipation of finally seeng the details of the floor, followed by the desolation of “even if we figure out how all of this works how are we going to make it”.

It is a pity that I don’t know enough of aerodynamics to fully appreciate the design. I love to see the more knowledgeable members of this forum having a go at it.

But the manufacturing detail that went in there is stunning. You can see that no compromises were made for strength, rigidity or manufacturability.

And the result is a structure that seems to be carved out by the airflow, rather than manufactured to guide it.

[Sieper]

and add another 100K for a front wing in the race today, in addition to basically getting a brand new car after qualifying.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxNiEwsXoAE ... name=large

I think that's why Newey had that disappointed look yesterday. Money his team need for development is going down the drain.

The gap now is 39 points. Perez isn't going to perform miracles to remove that deficit. It makes no sense to let him do these overzealous things in his impossible pursuit to match or challenge Max. Horner should ask him to behave and back off and play his normal, more apt second fiddle role to secure both championships without anymore damages. It helps focus the money on developing the car.

I would agree. Checo still has to work on finishing P2 in the WDC for the first time in his life. If he continues to put in weekends like this, he might find himself behind Alonso by the end of the season. Just as he found himself behind Leclerc at the end of last year. With RB's curtailed development time, there is a real concern that RB's performance advantage will dwindle and he will be under heavy fire from the likes of Alonso and Hamilton.

If the last restart in Australia wasn’t aborted Perez might already be in P3. Although Alonso also benefited there.

[AR3-GP]

Yes unfortunately for the others, that final high speed corner is right in RB's wheelhouse. If it's not a flat corner for everyone, RB will be taking chunks of time there, nevermind down the straight with a greater DRS effect due to higher speeds.

Will everyone still use high df wings despite the final corner having changed? I think RB will run with same config as Bahrain - high df BW and med df RW

I wouldn’t be surprised to see the Monaco wing and the Bahrain wing both tested in FP1.

[bluechris]

RB19 will be on another level of dominant in Barcelona. I can't imagine a more suiting circuit, especially with the removal of the chicane. If all goes well for Max I'm going to predict a 40s gap to the next non Red Bull car.

They will not do that if they are smart. They only need to remember what MB was doing in their dominant years.

[Sieper]

Mercedes had an engine they could just tune for the needed power, and they could always enable “hammertime” power modes if need be. Redbull does not have this option. Imho they aren’t that far ahead. They just have really good racepace and tire wear (in Max’ hands).

[DGP123]

Imho they aren’t that far ahead. They just have really good racepace and tire wear (in Max’ hands).

Stop trying to downplay the dominance. They are miles ahead, because of the race pace and tyre wear. This season is a no contest