2022 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, July 08 - 10

[ispano6]

Is Ferrari turning up the engine for the Qualifying and Sprint? Can they use a different engine in the actual race and not the one they used in Qualifying/Sprint?

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The pole with the yellow sectors reminds me of COTA '21. Was a good quali session.

Shame about Lewis and Russell because we could've had a 3-way fight

[Hammerfist]

W13 is fundamentally flawed. It’s amazing to me experienced watchers of this sport don’t see it. I guess they will have to learn the hard way like Ferrari fans did back when the engine changes happened. Will be fun to watch this unfold with frustrated fans unwilling to accept the reality that turd pods are an engineering disaster. That car is an aero boat anchor, a pos, a garbage can on wheels.

LOL. I think I will bookmark this post and repost it in a few races time.

[Juzh]

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

It’s why they choose VER as a clear no1. PER can be there on his day but over a season the pace gap between them is huge. I’d wager if it wasn’t for VER, FER would have been clear favourite for the title this year.

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W13 is fundamentally flawed. It’s amazing to me experienced watchers of this sport don’t see it. I guess they will have to learn the hard way like Ferrari fans did back when the engine changes happened. Will be fun to watch this unfold with frustrated fans unwilling to accept the reality that turd pods are an engineering disaster. That car is an aero boat anchor, a pos, a garbage can on wheels.

This aero boat anchor seems to also be very quick at times. They've only had a handful of races with it performing properly compared to ~10 for the other top teams and they're already competitive at least in the races. We'll see what they can really do at Paul Ricard I'm sure

[Sevach]

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

Leclerc was already out on track when Russell brought the red, maybe the fact that he warmed tires twice, took some out of them...
And on his first attempt, Hamilton was inconveniently placed.

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Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

When the car is balanced Perez cannot deliver peak car pace. He is excellent when he is given an understeering car but this is not where the laptime can be gained if you have Max in the other seat.. I think the usual 4-5 tenth qualifying gap will return but he can fight forwards in the race with a heavier understeering car

[morefirejules08]

Let’s not forget the British fans cheered when max spun last week.

I don’t agree with the cheering/booing but can’t just expect one nation of fans to sit quiet the week after the other set Fans were doing the same.


And that’s a HUGE bill for Mercedes’ tonight

spin =/= crash... it was fine for the spin... big crash for a driver that mandates a medical center visit... not so much.

Not forgetting the few cheers from last year when max was in the wall.

Just imagine that I dunno, both sets of fans cheering crashes is a bad thing. Playing a game of what aboutism to justify your fans cheering is disingenuous.

[Juzh]

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

Leclerc was already out on track when Russell brought the red, maybe the fact that he warmed tires twice, took some out of them...
And on his first attempt, Hamilton was inconveniently placed.

Could be, but verstappen also didn't have best of laps because of all the waiting, probably no one did.

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

When the car is balanced Perez cannot deliver peak car pace. He is excellent when he is given an understeering car but this is not where the laptime can be gained if you have Max in the other seat.. I think the usual 4-5 tenth qualifying gap will return but he can fight forwards in the race with a heavier understeering car

yeah agree

[cplchanb]

W13 is fundamentally flawed. It’s amazing to me experienced watchers of this sport don’t see it. I guess they will have to learn the hard way like Ferrari fans did back when the engine changes happened. Will be fun to watch this unfold with frustrated fans unwilling to accept the reality that turd pods are an engineering disaster. That car is an aero boat anchor, a pos, a garbage can on wheels.

ok so what part of this weekend and last weekend made you lead to such conclusions??

dont forget RB and ferrari are only where they are not due to most likely a cheat flexing floor....

[maxxer]

Verstappen pulled this one out of the bag, wasn't expecting it at all given Leclerc's usual heroics in last lap quali shootouts. Perez is nowhere even with his preferred understeer being dialled in. Tomorrow and sunday it'll be very close.

When the car is balanced Perez cannot deliver peak car pace. He is excellent when he is given an understeering car but this is not where the laptime can be gained if you have Max in the other seat.. I think the usual 4-5 tenth qualifying gap will return but he can fight forwards in the race with a heavier understeering car

I see discussions about drivers all over this forum but this used to be a very high raked car and now its low rake and Verstappen adjusted to that pretty easy. Not a fan of any driver myself but seems impressive to me

[wesley123]

W13 is fundamentally flawed. It’s amazing to me experienced watchers of this sport don’t see it. I guess they will have to learn the hard way like Ferrari fans did back when the engine changes happened. Will be fun to watch this unfold with frustrated fans unwilling to accept the reality that turd pods are an engineering disaster. That car is an aero boat anchor, a pos, a garbage can on wheels.

Seems weird that a flawed aero platform has thus far worked best at aero tracks.

Also the “It’s amazing to me experienced watchers of this sport don’t see it.” should tell you enough about your argument, really.

[cplchanb]

Was he running multiple lap old tyres like Hamilton?

If so what a stupid idea from the team.

ok you just need to can it... that was his first flying lap on the new tyres. ham did not purposefully run those laps. you can clearly see from the purple S1s that they were aborts...

The fact he had enough fuel to do all of those laps means it was planned.

dont forget this is a very short race track and the fuel load penalty is probably negligible. they could afford 1 or 2 more laps in case of an abort. not to mention ham backed out very early so they conserved fuel.

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