2024 MoneyGram Haas F1 Team

[dennis h]

Ten points ahead of seventh in sixth place and still going forward ! (Constructors)
Can they continue this pace?
Can they hold onto sixth place?

[Vanja #66]

Great stiff from Haas, Komatsu got a good car and improved at and Gene started cashing out more and more. Steiner will be remembered, his sacrifice made all of this possible

[continuum16]

I don’t have the raw data but did Kmag actually close on Max over the final stint? I also noticed he gapped Hulk by like 15-20s over the final stint. Hopefully they can find out what the hell happened because it looked like the car temporarily bridged the gap between formula B and Formula A.

Seems like they can at least expect to race/beat Perez now so really P8 and not P9 is the max for “Formula B” nowadays. Still mega job; from the outside this is the same team in name only as the one that ran last year. With next year being (I assume) mostly a carry-over year they should aim to fight Aston for P5. Why not? Especially if Ferrari is good.

[TyreSlip]

I don’t have the raw data but did Kmag actually close on Max over the final stint? I also noticed he gapped Hulk by like 15-20s over the final stint. Hopefully they can find out what the hell happened because it looked like the car temporarily bridged the gap between formula B and Formula A.

Seems like they can at least expect to race/beat Perez now so really P8 and not P9 is the max for “Formula B” nowadays. Still mega job; from the outside this is the same team in name only as the one that ran last year. With next year being (I assume) mostly a carry-over year they should aim to fight Aston for P5. Why not? Especially if Ferrari is good.

The Aston Martin technical department is in shambles and lost with its car development. 5th can easily be on the tables for Haas next year. Ocon will be much happier.

[AR3-GP]

Great stiff from Haas, Komatsu got a good car and improved at and Gene started cashing out more and more. Steiner will be remembered, his sacrifice made all of this possible

All of this is possible in spite of Steiner...

[Vanja #66]

All of this is possible in spite of Steiner...

Was it not Steiner's original idea that got Haas to fund a new F1 team? Did the team not achieve several P4 race finishes in multiple seasons under Steiner?

And with all that Haas takes issue with Steiner's popularity, pulls the funds away last year and blames it all on Steiner... Smooth

[Jurgen von Diaz]

... and Steiner sacked Schumacher and hired Hülkenberg. Couldn't have made a better choice.

[continuum16]

Steiner definitely deserves some credit for the team’s improvement, especially over the winter. And yes, he definitely was the brains behind setting the team up in the first place. None of us have a clue who is responsible for the internal culture/operational changes, or even if there has been an extreme change.

The main external difference between Steiner and Komatsu is that under Komatsu everything is far less dramatic and volatile. Does the improved car help with that? Absolutely. I don’t know if Gene actually reduced funding for 2023 but when Steiner left the narrative was that Steiner believed “the team can’t do better without more money” and Gene (possibly supported by Komatsu? IDK) believed “they could do better with what they have already.”

Ultimately, without seemingly a massive investment from Gene, the form has improved, in-season development has actually functioned for the first time (maybe 2018?) ever, and with the Toyota deal they will not seemingly have money troubles in the future. I think Komatsu was integral in that push (not just because he’s Japanese, although I’m sure that doesn’t hurt) and deserves a lot of credit for that.

The bottom line is that the team is (finally?) stable and are not constantly being called “an embarrassment” and “waste of space” like they have been before!