2024 Chinese GP

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AmateurDriver
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avantman wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:35
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:31
Norris is always good in wet conditions.
great! rather than just good.
He is all-weather great. Like the 4seasons tyres I have on my Giulietta.

Cs98
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dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:41
Cs98 wrote:
dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38

Lmao. Historical trend perhaps doesn’t include the current session?
One data point is not a trend. Surely you are clever enough to grasp that.
Is this Max’s first race in the wet?

Not interested in this going further, going to .
Of course you aren't interested because you don't have a coherent point. If you assert there is a trend with a driver towards good or bad, you need more than one data point to back it up. The more the better.

dialtone
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Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:46
dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:41
Cs98 wrote: One data point is not a trend. Surely you are clever enough to grasp that.
Is this Max’s first race in the wet?

Not interested in this going further, going to .
Of course you aren't interested because you don't have a coherent point. If you assert there is a trend with a driver towards good or bad, you need more than one data point to back it up. The more the better.
No, I'm not interested because it's a useless discussion. As I stated the tarmac condition is the issue as all drivers struggled to keep the car on track. Somehow though if it's LEC then he's struggling, everyone else instead it's just an off day.

You Max fans crack me up. Zero objectivity.

avantman
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dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38
Cs98 wrote:
dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:35

You made a statement after today’s session and your statement is false if I look at what happened today. That’s about all there is to say.

Max the god of rain, on a dominant car, couldn’t keep it on track and was out qualified by a car that barely made it into sq3.

The historical trend for Max is going worsening, washed?
If you don't understand the meaning of "historical trend.
Lmao. Historical trend perhaps doesn’t include the current session?
Relax dude, your God le Sharles did great again, showed Sainz his place. Just be happy!
P.S. So great we have Le Fans like you! True fans. objective fans.
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Venturiation wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38
thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
Team Fernando!

Just_a_fan
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venkyhere wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38
Getting into facebook-like "who is talented, who is not" is a bit too under-par, for this forum.
Ha ha, you're obviously new here. It's very much par for the course in the forum. :lol:
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

Cs98
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dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:47
Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:46
dialtone wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:41

Is this Max’s first race in the wet?

Not interested in this going further, going to .
Of course you aren't interested because you don't have a coherent point. If you assert there is a trend with a driver towards good or bad, you need more than one data point to back it up. The more the better.
No, I'm not interested because it's a useless discussion. As I stated the tarmac condition is the issue as all drivers struggled to keep the car on track. Somehow though if it's LEC then he's struggling, everyone else instead it's just an off day.

You Max fans crack me up. Zero objectivity.
I never asserted there's a trend with Leclerc in the wet, you are confused.

Cs98
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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:49
Venturiation wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38
thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
It's the next lap which was deleted and reinstated if I understand correctly. In which case I agree with the reinstatement because there is no advantage to be gained by running through the gravel, you only lose.

avantman
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AmateurDriver wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:45
avantman wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:35
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:31
Norris is always good in wet conditions.
great! rather than just good.
He is all-weather great. Like the 4seasons tyres I have on my Giulietta.
I rate him 2nd best performing driver on the grid for like 3rd year in a row. So, I wouldn't argue with you. But, he stands out particularly in full wet conditions (not a bit damp), showing that time after time again.

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Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:54
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:49
Venturiation wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:38
thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
It's the next lap which was deleted and reinstated if I understand correctly. In which case I agree with the reinstatement because there is no advantage to be gained by running through the gravel, you only lose.
Regardless of that the rules have to be applied consistently. You’re right, there’s likely no advantage but the application of a rule that seems to have previously been applied consistently and objectively is suddenly wholly inconsistent and subjective.

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Tiny73 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:59
Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:54
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:49


thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
It's the next lap which was deleted and reinstated if I understand correctly. In which case I agree with the reinstatement because there is no advantage to be gained by running through the gravel, you only lose.
Regardless of that the rules have to be applied consistently. You’re right, there’s likely no advantage but the application of a rule that seems to have previously been applied consistently and objectively is suddenly wholly inconsistent and subjective.
There doesn’t appear to be a reference to said rule in the RDs notes (prob because of the very presence of the gravel trap). Fair ruling but another piece of unnecessary fcukery by the FIA who can’t get their sh1t right.
Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

avantman
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Tiny73 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:59
Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:54
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:49


thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
It's the next lap which was deleted and reinstated if I understand correctly. In which case I agree with the reinstatement because there is no advantage to be gained by running through the gravel, you only lose.
Regardless of that the rules have to be applied consistently. You’re right, there’s likely no advantage but the application of a rule that seems to have previously been applied consistently and objectively is suddenly wholly inconsistent and subjective.
Common sense should always be above any [stupid] rules. And, of course, the race direction must be absolutely empowered to apply common sense when it needed. Finally, the FIA did something right.
Last edited by avantman on 19 Apr 2024, 11:06, edited 1 time in total.

Cs98
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Tiny73 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:59
Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:54
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:49


thoughts on this? I would say it should not be reinstated...
It's the next lap which was deleted and reinstated if I understand correctly. In which case I agree with the reinstatement because there is no advantage to be gained by running through the gravel, you only lose.
Regardless of that the rules have to be applied consistently. You’re right, there’s likely no advantage but the application of a rule that seems to have previously been applied consistently and objectively is suddenly wholly inconsistent and subjective.
I think the rules are being applied consistently. If there's an advantage to be had (on the next lap) by extending the last corner, the next lap is deleted. An example of this would be Austria final corner, where you can carry more speed onto the straight by extending the final corner. Here, with the gravel trap, there's no advantage to extending the track, you only lose time, hence no reason to delete the next lap. The current lap obviously needs to be deleted because track limits always apply. I doubt the rules specifically say the next lap has to be deleted automatically, I would imagine it's derived from the "going off track and gaining an advantage" provision, which is open to interpretation depending on the track.

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AMG.Tzan wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:23
Classic FIA!

Right when they see Hamilton top they do something they have never done before!

Reinstate a lap 😂😂😂

What a joke…
Yes. I am sure the sole purpose of that reinstatement was to piss of Hamilton and his fanclub. For sure it was not because they made a mistake in evaluating the validity of the lap. :roll:

avantman
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Cs98 wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 10:52
I never asserted there's a trend with Leclerc in the wet, you are confused.
There is a trend though. He either slow, finds a wall, or....both! :mrgreen: