British GP 2010 - Silverstone

[donskar]

A really refreshing statement from Alonso. Sounds like Ferrari sent him to "charm school":

On my final run, I had traffic in sector three – I think it might have been Michael – but even with a clear track ahead of me, I definitely would not have improved my grid position.

[TheRMVR]

Does anyone here actually knows the difference between the two front wings? I thought it was just a different endplate.

[PlatinumZealot]

Other than the physical differences Horner said it was more of a difference in behavioural characteristic and not speed.

[TheRMVR]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

[spinmastermic]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

No point dude, you just dont get it.

[Shaddock]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

I'm going to disagree with you amd here's why; If both drivers had broken their wings in free practice this morning, and there was only one spare on the shelf, then yes, as SV is leading MW in the championship, you could argue that he should get this spare.

However, RB came to the race with only 2 'new design' front wings, one for each car, and SV's broke in free practice. I'm not sure that cannibalising Mark's car for spares for Seb’s is the right thing to do given that there are only 12 points separating them at the half way point in the season.

[TheRMVR]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

I'm going to disagree with you amd here's why; If both drivers had broken their wings in free practice this morning, and there was only one spare on the shelf, then yes, as SV is leading MW in the championship, you could argue that he should get this spare.

However, RB came to the race with only 2 'new design' front wings, one for each car, and SV's broke in free practice. I'm not sure that cannibalising Mark's car for spares for Seb’s is the right thing to do given that there are only 12 points separating them at the half way point in the season.

I thought the two new wings were actually different from eachother. Webber was testing one, as was Vettel. It had not been decided that Webber would run the one he was testing. So saying Vettel got Webbers wing doesnt hold up. And besides that Vettel hasn't 'broken his wing'. It wasn't his fault, that would've changed a lot.

[TheRMVR]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

No point dude, you just dont get it.

Good comment "dude"

[spinmastermic]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

No point dude, you just dont get it.

Good comment "dude"

No worries mate. I'm sure I can get you a job with Ferrari if ya want. A lad of your reasoning would fit right in.

I could ask around at Merc GP too.

[forty-two]

Unfortunately you cannot rewind the red button feed so I couldn't double check.

sorry for being off topic, but if you watch the red button feed by selecting channel 301 (instead of actually using the red button) you can not only time shift but also record on schedule. When you press the red button, the pvr goes into a hybrid data and video mode which denies recording or time shifting.

All of the above is true with both my humax pvr's and a technika (tesco's own brand) combo, so i expect its true with most others too!

[forty-two]

Btw, I challenge anyone on this forum to give me one good reason why Webber should have the new front wing.

Vettel couldn't help it that the front wing used on his car got damaged, then there is only one 'new' front wing left. How could you argue that Webber should have that one?

I would agree with people who say that Vettel is the favourite inside the team if it was actually Vettel who destroyed its own front wing. But there was nothing that he could've done. It could've happened to Webber.

So that leaves them with just one 'new' front wing. It's absolutely understandable that it goes on the car that is first in the DC.

I'm going to disagree with you amd here's why; If both drivers had broken their wings in free practice this morning, and there was only one spare on the shelf, then yes, as SV is leading MW in the championship, you could argue that he should get this spare.

However, RB came to the race with only 2 'new design' front wings, one for each car, and SV's broke in free practice. I'm not sure that cannibalising Mark's car for spares for Seb’s is the right thing to do given that there are only 12 points separating them at the half way point in the season.

+1

It all reinforces my beleif that RB favour Vettel. I don't dislike Vettel, but I hope the second unit of the new wing fails on him tomorrow as that would be good karma. Before anyone jumps on me, i hope it fails during the parade lap (it wont, but anyway) so that they both start on equal equipment and nobody is hurt of course.

I never thought I'd say this, but Im hoping for P1 Webber, P2 Button and P3 Lewis. That'd spice up the championship!

See you tomorrow chaps!

[CHT]

It does make sense for RBR to start favouring one driver over the other because they cant afford to have 2 of their drivers cancelling out each other advantage throughout the entire season and then end up losing the WDC to Lewis Hamilton. And this is especially more so for a team that has NEVER win a championshop before.

As a drink manufacturer, I believe the ultimate price for the team will be to win the WDC rather than the WCC, and for that reason RBR will do whatever it takes to win it.

[djos]

You have to feel sorry for Webber Seb breaks his new front wing and RB then take his faster front wing and straps it to Sebs car, leaving Webber with the older slower version for the weekend.

But obviously there is no favouritism in the team - honestly.

Webber didn't seem to thrilled about being 2nd again either!

[ringo]

It does make sense for RBR to start favouring one driver over the other because they cant afford to have 2 of their drivers cancelling out each other advantage throughout the entire season and then end up losing the WDC to Lewis Hamilton. And this is especially more so for a team that has NEVER win a championshop before.

As a drink manufacturer, I believe the ultimate price for the team will be to win the WDC rather than the WCC, and for that reason RBR will do whatever it takes to win it.

one counter arguement is that their car is head and shoulders above the others and neither webber nor Vettel would be threatened by any other car in qualifying.
I think changing the wing hurts more than it helps their championship fight, now that i look on it.
Giving webber the wing would give him a tenth, then take a tenth away from Vettel, giving webber pole, both comfortably 8 tenths up on the field.

Depending on if Webber is faster over the race and runs away from vettel, or if Webber is slower and vettel is on his gear box; being slowed, then that would influence who would make better use of the wing. We dont want Vettel to be held up and crash into webber again. And i think Horner knows webber can take the heat from Alonso and Hamilton better than Vettel, and will act as a wall between Vettel and the others. However i believe webber is faster here and Horner made a mistake.
Ripping webber's wing right off his car,(not even like it was in some storage room round back where he never used it; but to rip it off right in front of him when he already got accostomed to it!) and putting it on Vettel's is an image that will be in Webber's mind the whole season, it will affect his performance.
Nonetheless, webber is faster, even with the old wing. Vettel did one off lap quicker than webber, i don't think he will hold that up the whole race. He doesn't seem to have the rhythm that Webber has on the new layout.
Sunday will be interesting.

[Just_a_fan]

Weather forecast is still for a dry day but we've had some rain overnight near Brackley (about 5 miles in a straight line from Silverstone).

Maybe the weather will chuck in some interest after all...(although it's nice and sunny outside at the moment)