I think that this provision is in place to future-proof this particular regulation against future electrification of the drive train. It was only a few years ago that the the ill-fated cost cap regulations contained a provision for 4 wheel KERS. Although that isn't in the 2014 regulations, it can only be a matter of time before it is introduced.scuderiafan wrote:I would bet if a team decided to run a 4 wheel drive/steering system, they could use it and say the regs allow it.allstaruk08 wrote:"1.2 Automobile :
A land vehicle running on at least four non-aligned complete wheels, of which at least two are
used for steering and at least two for propulsion"
does that mean you can have 4 wheel drive and 4 wheel steer?
Article 3.7.5
Ahead of the front wheel centre line and between 750mm and 825mm from the car centre line there must be bodywork with a projected area of no less than 95,000mm2 in side view. Any intersection of this bodywork with a lateral vertical plane or a horizontal plane must form one continuous line.
Yes i m quite sure beacuse that rules in 2014 are just reajustmend of curend rules!Tozza Mazza wrote:QUESTION:
in 2014, will the front wing's be allowed to be endplateless, or are we going to get a boring flat endplate design?
Article 3.7.5
Ahead of the front wheel centre line and between 750mm and 825mm from the car centre line there must be bodywork with a projected area of no less than 95,000mm2 in side view. Any intersection of this bodywork with a lateral vertical plane or a horizontal plane must form one continuous line.
I have already pointed out in this thread that the KERS system will not be continued. There will be no push button for a timed release of electric energy to the rear wheels as we have seen with KERS. Instead the electric energy from the battery will be continuously fed in by pushing the throttle pedal. Electric energy from the hybrid turbo charger is expected to be fed to the rear wheel motor/generator (MGUK) at the rate it is produced by the turbo chargers motor/generator (MGUH).ESPImperium wrote:The cars wont change too much cosmetically to the eye, but will change massivly internaly with KERS/HERS systems for 30 seconds a lap and the 15,000rpm limited V6 Turbos with tuned exhaust notes.
And mehanical Mguk..kers there will be two sources of energy input Mguk (nawadays kers) and mguh (that electro turbo motor)WhiteBlue wrote:I have already pointed out in this thread that the KERS system will not be continued. There will be no push button for a timed release of electric energy to the rear wheels as we have seen with KERS. Instead the electric energy from the battery will be continuously fed in by pushing the throttle pedal. Electric energy from the hybrid turbo charger is expected to be fed to the rear wheel motor/generator (MGUK) at the rate it is produced by the turbo chargers motor/generator (MGUH).ESPImperium wrote:The cars wont change too much cosmetically to the eye, but will change massivly internaly with KERS/HERS systems for 30 seconds a lap and the 15,000rpm limited V6 Turbos with tuned exhaust notes.
The 15,000 rpm limit will be largely decorative. Beyond 10,500 rpm upwards the fuel flow will be level at 27.78 g/s which means that peak power is reached under 11,000 rpm. There will be no motivation to run between 11 and 15 krpm as friction will reduce the power continually with rising rpm. On the other hand sound will nevertheless be impressive as all six cylinders will be firing into one exhaust pipe. So the frequency that you hear will be coming from both banks instead of one bank that we used to hear from the V12s, the V10s and the V8s.
All true, as well as that there is scope for the turbo to have a MGU on it as well, charging when spinning when the throttle is depressed, but also keeping it spinning when the throttle isnt depressed. I thought there was also going to be a KERS button as to give the driver the option to boost in order to overtake if he needed.aleksandergreat wrote:And mehanical Mguk..kers there will be two sources of energy input Mguk (nawadays kers) and mguh (that electro turbo motor)WhiteBlue wrote:I have already pointed out in this thread that the KERS system will not be continued. There will be no push button for a timed release of electric energy to the rear wheels as we have seen with KERS. Instead the electric energy from the battery will be continuously fed in by pushing the throttle pedal. Electric energy from the hybrid turbo charger is expected to be fed to the rear wheel motor/generator (MGUK) at the rate it is produced by the turbo chargers motor/generator (MGUH).ESPImperium wrote:The cars wont change too much cosmetically to the eye, but will change massivly internaly with KERS/HERS systems for 30 seconds a lap and the 15,000rpm limited V6 Turbos with tuned exhaust notes.
The 15,000 rpm limit will be largely decorative. Beyond 10,500 rpm upwards the fuel flow will be level at 27.78 g/s which means that peak power is reached under 11,000 rpm. There will be no motivation to run between 11 and 15 krpm as friction will reduce the power continually with rising rpm. On the other hand sound will nevertheless be impressive as all six cylinders will be firing into one exhaust pipe. So the frequency that you hear will be coming from both banks instead of one bank that we used to hear from the V12s, the V10s and the V8s.
ESPImperium wrote:All true, as well as that there is scope for the turbo to have a MGU on it as well, charging when spinning when the throttle is depressed, but also keeping it spinning when the throttle isnt depressed.
Please read what others have posted about the MGUH. Your posts about the issue are confusing and misleading. Definitely NOT!!!!!ESPImperium wrote:I thought there was also going to be a KERS button as to give the driver the option to boost in order to overtake if he needed.
