Schumi deliberately blocks Monaco quali

JimmyK · Post 27 May 2006, 15:45

Yes it's true, Kimi was dramaticaly slowed by Rosberg in last sector. But this is same kind of incident that Fisi/ JV had at Nurburgring. I don't think Roseberg did it intentionnaly. What Sh**maker just did is totally different.

Yeh yeh, to clarify, I don't think Rosberg did anything wrong, just an unfortunate place to be with Kimi storming along behind him.

Schumacher doesn't bother me too much, Kimi still woulda got first anyway.
*Ferrari tactics?*
Poor old Massa as well, I don't really think he's to blame for the bizarre loss of grip at the rear.

LoRdVaMPz · Post 27 May 2006, 15:45

lolz ... its neva going to b fair.... everything is unfair in this world..so just accept it ..n watch the race tomorrow

manchild · Post 27 May 2006, 15:48

A fair race would be if Schuey shares last row with his "boy from Brazil" whose rear wing didn't flex back when it was supposed to

Not to meniton deliberate endagering of safety!

wowf1 · Post 27 May 2006, 15:48

I must say that one great thing came out of this. This is that Alonso showed his true class in the press conference by remaining professional and calm. He did completely the right thing by talking about his own performance, and not passing comment or getting heated.

True, true Champion. He most definitely has my respect and I am certainly more of a fan!

allan · Post 27 May 2006, 15:49

i wonder why would Michael want to lose a lap in qual to slow the other cars???
if u watch the whole lap, u'll see that he was on limit with new tyres.
and about the reverse, if he had used it and hit another car(david, fisi or barichello), the session would have been ended, and "ALONSO"wouldn't take the pole, neither would KIMI,and i wonder what would u do then guys??
but why didn't u mention the Marchals who stood watching the car without trying to move it, even though, since the moment michael stopped, he asked them to push him...
i guess u couldn't wait and see what happened afterwards, because u can't miss such an opportunity to blame the 7 times world champion, can u??

LoRdVaMPz · Post 27 May 2006, 15:51

allan u have to understand the word jealousy ....

Post 27 May 2006, 15:57

allan wrote:i wonder why would Michael want to lose a lap in qual to slow the other cars???
if u watch the whole lap, u'll see that he was on limit with new tyres.
and about the reverse, if he had used it and hit another car(david, fisi or barichello), the session would have been ended, and "ALONSO"wouldn't take the pole, neither would KIMI,and i wonder what would u do then guys??
but why didn't u mention the Marchals who stood watching the car without trying to move it, even though, since the moment michael stopped, he asked them to push him...
i guess u couldn't wait and see what happened afterwards, because u can't miss such an opportunity to blame the 7 times world champion, can u??

Michael has a history of these things, that's why. Also, they would have to push him into the pitlane for the yellow flags to disappear, and that's quite some distance from where he was. So no, pushing would just have been stupid. Just 3 meters backwards would have allowed him to finish his lap, but no...

manchild · Post 27 May 2006, 15:58

allan wrote:i wonder why would Michael want to lose a lap in qual to slow the other cars???

Because he has radio com with his team and he very well knew who was behind him and that if he does that the pole is his.

Team - "Michael you're on P1 just pull out one of your tricks"

JimmyK · Post 27 May 2006, 16:02

I must admit, as I've said earlier, this whole Schumacher thing doesn't really bother me that much.

But I find it hard to believe that Schumacher, probably one of the best drivers there's been in F1, would just give up on a corner after about 1 millisecond of wheel lock.

And there's quite a few people analysing where everyone else is, so instead of reversing, he waited to be shoved off by the marshalls, which occurred WHILST other cars were hurtling round the corner, simply reversing woulda been less dangerous, imo.

DaveKillens · Post 27 May 2006, 16:03

The race stewards will have access to the Ferrari telemetry, and by analysis, learn what buttons Shu pushed, and in what timing. Opinions are opinions, but by comparing Shu's actions in the cockpit against the sequence of external events, the truth can be learned.
Drivers are in constant communication with their engineers, and Shu most likely was very aware of Alonso's lap, and consequences if he was able to finish it. Before he had arrived at the scene of his "event", he would have known that both Alonso and Kimi were putting in VERY quick laps.
It's up to the telemetry and the stewards.
I won't comment on whether he "cheated", but one fact I do stand by is that Michael Schumacher is the most ruthless racer in the history of motorsport, and has been known to do almost anything to achieve his goals.

USAF1FAN · Post 27 May 2006, 16:06

That is a professional cheat, 1994 Australia GP and 1997 Spain GP

Cheat cheat cheat[/quote]

What happened at these races?

Ciro Pabón · Post 27 May 2006, 16:07

I suggest this thread should be renamed "Schu steals pole at Monaco!"

LoRdVaMPz seems as naive as Schuey. This, even DaveKillens should concede, I am not calling Mr. Schumacher guilty either, just naive as a driver or naive as a person. Imagine for a second to Ide doing the same thing...

Thanks be given, the world is not only fair, it is beautiful and has a balance that seems perfect to me.

If Schuey wins tomorrow, LoRdVaMPz has nothing to be happy about. After all, we can make jokes on him for all eternity! What about "Schu locks the title"?

On the other hand, if Schuey loses tomorrow... we can do the same thing.

pompelmo · Post 27 May 2006, 16:11

come on guys, don't be smart....look at the rules....i believe he didn't do anything wrong...stop being jelous...everybody just know to talk dirty about everybody, not good things...if you could prove he disobayed the rules, i'll agree to be a cheater...i wonder if you could say to MS "bastard", "fu***g cheater", in his face..i believe not

JimmyK · Post 27 May 2006, 16:16

What happened at these races?

I'm not sure about 1997.
But I believe Australia 1994 was when Schumacher went into a wall, then as Damon Hill was about to overtake, Schumacher swerved tight into the corner despite it clearly being Hill's, and smacked him, Shumacher went out, but all he needed was Hill not to get on the podium (or smth like that) and he would win the champ. Hill's suspension was too bent outta shape for it to be safe to get back to racing properly, so Shumi won the champ.

Video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQOT7Y9Y ... her%20Hill

jaslfc · Post 27 May 2006, 16:17

i think we should give shumy a break .. at least for now.. the stewards will have all the information and will come out with the right decision.
Innocent until proven guilty..

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