Australian GP 2010 - Melbourne

[Mr Alcatraz]

The performance in rain mainly goes down the car not just the driver. An example is Massa; he did horribly in the rain at Silverstone in 2008, slipping and sliding all over the place, but battled amazingly with Kubica wheel to wheel in a rain soaked '07 Japanese GP.

If your car goes well in the wet then great, if not then you're sh*t out of luck.

Well my money would be on Mike in the rain with equal cars!

BTW Prop's to Fred for ringing that Ferrari's neck for everything it was worth!





2010 FORMULA 1 QANTAS AUSTRALIAN GRAND PRIX
Pos No Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps

1 5 Sebastian Vettel RBR-Renault 1:24.774 1:24.096 1:23.919 19
2 6 Mark Webber RBR-Renault 1:25.286 1:24.276 1:24.035 20
3 8 Fernando Alonso Ferrari 1:25.082 1:24.335 1:24.111 22
4 1 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes 1:24.897 1:24.531 1:24.675 19
5 7 Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:25.548 1:25.010 1:24.837 24
6 4 Nico Rosberg Mercedes Benz GP Ltd 1:24.788 1:24.788 1:24.884 26
7 3 Michael Schumacher Mercedes Benz GP Ltd 1:25.351 1:24.871 1:24.927 24
8 9 Rubens Barrichello Williams-Cosworth 1:25.702 1:25.085 1:25.217 20
9 11 Robert Kubica Renault 1:25.588 1:25.122 1:25.372 23
10 14 Adrian Sutil Force India-Mercedes 1:25.504 1:25.046 1:26.036 24
11 2 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:25.046 1:25.184 13
12 16 Sebastien Buemi STR-Ferrari 1:26.061 1:25.638 17
13 15 Vitantonio Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 1:26.170 1:25.743 19
14 22 Pedro de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.089 1:25.747 15
15 10 Nico Hulkenberg Williams-Cosworth 1:25.866 1:25.748 17
16 23 Kamui Kobayashi BMW Sauber-Ferrari 1:26.251 1:25.777 16
17 17 Jaime Alguersuari STR-Ferrari 1:26.095 1:26.089 16
18 12 Vitaly Petrov Renault 1:26.471 10
19 19 Heikki Kovalainen Lotus-Cosworth 1:28.797 9
20 18 Jarno Trulli Lotus-Cosworth 1:29.111 8
21 24 Timo Glock Virgin-Cosworth 1:29.592 8
22 25 Lucas di Grassi Virgin-Cosworth 1:30.185 8
23 21 Bruno Senna HRT-Cosworth 1:30.526 10
24 20 Karun Chandhok HRT-Cosworth 1:30.613

[vall]

Merc are a full second behind Red Bull. Michael much closer to Rosberg with 0.043 s, basically on the same level. They must be praying for rain.

If after 3 years away MS could be that close to Rosberg already at the 1st and 2nd race, I fear for Nico. If Merc could get the car to MS' liking, then I would not be shocked if he beats Nico badly. Not that I would be happy about it but.....

[Pierce89]

Fred was pretty damn incredible, but Vettel when he got sideways in 14 and still set pole and lap record, was just effin unreal today.

[djones]

Am I right in thinking out of the top 10 the two mercs are on hard tyres?

If so I wonder if that will be a disadvantage at the start.

[WhiteBlue]

Am I right in thinking out of the top 10 the two mercs are on hard tyres?

If so I wonder if that will be a disadvantage at the start.

All are on soft tyres except Sutil. If he can ake it throught turn one he will probably go the whole race until the last ten or fifteen laps when he will change for softs. On low fuel it will probably give him an advantage then.

[mach11]

does that give sutil a considerable advantage or disadvantage over the others as the conditions are cooler....

[Pedro]

Starting grid



Source: F1news.cz
http://f1news.cz/novinky/34319-grafika- ... melbourne/

[imightbewrong]

Am I right in thinking out of the top 10 the two mercs are on hard tyres?

If so I wonder if that will be a disadvantage at the start.

All are on soft tyres except Sutil. If he can ake it throught turn one he will probably go the whole race until the last ten or fifteen laps when he will change for softs. On low fuel it will probably give him an advantage then.

Sutil is also on softs.

[segedunum]

Oh dear. They need to find a lot of downforce on that car. I thought Melbourne would have been OK for them, and the next few races aren't likely to be happy. There's a lot of long faces in that garage.

I just get the impression that their insistance on maximising the straight line speed advantage they have is compromising them in downforce and cornering speed. They need to trade some of their straight line speed off, but perhaps they can't?

[horse]

They need to trade some of their straight line speed off, but perhaps they can't?

Again, Jenson said that he thought other teams had "put on" more downforce between Friday and Saturday which had moved McLaren back. I'm getting more and more convinced that the "F-duct" is somewhat limiting the teams flexibility in terms of aero and that they need to get it just right before arriving at the circuit.

Still, Brawn are now working on one too, so they all must believe the trade off (should it exist) to be worth it.

[autogyro]

They need to trade some of their straight line speed off, but perhaps they can't?

Again, Jenson said that he thought other teams had "put on" more downforce between Friday and Saturday which had moved McLaren back. I'm getting more and more convinced that the "F-duct" is somewhat limiting the teams flexibility in terms of aero and that they need to get it just right before arriving at the circuit.

Still, Brawn are now working on one too, so they all must believe the trade off (should it exist) to be worth it.

It is the ride height control that they are behind on.

[horse]

It is the ride height control that they are behind on.

Agreed, in a sense. If they are having to run the cars higher than others then they will have less comparative downforce. Yet Red Bull deny it and Ferrari are yet to be challenged.

[multisync]

Watching I noticed during Q3 Sutil did not come up on the board till 2 mins right at the end. Did he run earlier/more or is that correct?

[marcush.]

Oh dear. They need to find a lot of downforce on that car. I thought Melbourne would have been OK for them, and the next few races aren't likely to be happy. There's a lot of long faces in that garage.

I just get the impression that their insistance on maximising the straight line speed advantage they have is compromising them in downforce and cornering speed. They need to trade some of their straight line speed off, but perhaps they can't?

how come that they get it wrong two years in arow to start with AND inbetween they really seem to have found the right answers -testimony given by Hamilton near the sharp end of the grid constantly ?

[autogyro]

I think it is much more than simply being able to run the ride height low all the time. If you watch the in car video of Vetels qualifying lap and compare it to the others, you will see that the front suspension push rods look to be longer and at a sharper (acute) angle, they also mount higher on the tub. The red bull seems more controlled and softer sprung over the bumps.
If it also softer in roll, where the edge of the floor on the outside of the corner will roll closer to the road achieving a 'semi' tunnel effect and increase DF.
Also better softer control in pitch will ensure a floor that runs level to the road for longer.
The other cars just look to be to hard, pitchy and bouncy, even if low enough.