2014/15 Silly Season

[iotar__]

Ron Dennis wants Magnussen but the other shareholders want Button.

Who wins?

take a wild, wild guess.

Nothing wild about this guess - either way it's McLaren's competition. It's not that simple, it's not only about drivers. They had all the data to make a decision long time ago so it's also about Dennis as a team principle and finding sponsor (rumours but plausible). Prepare yourself to call Magnussen not only underperforming driver but an under-performing pay-driver

Sainz collected enough money or what? You can forget test being a factor (Marko), every single young RB driver had "a great test". They have positive reviews written before they start testing. BTW why wasn't he driving for Toro Rosso next to Verstappen?

[lebesset]

Ron Dennis wants Magnussen but the other shareholders want Button.

Who wins?

if it was just who would be best in 2015 button would be a shoe in , but as boullier says his performance isn't enough .....because it isn't that simple ; just note that McLaren doesn't have a title sponsor , and they badly want one , if it's danish or dutch for example you can see where the chips might fall

F1 isn't so much a sport , it's a business

follow the money .....and that's what the directors will do or ron will if he regains control of the company

[SiLo]

Getting a sponsor won't make up for having a worse driver.

Imagine them winning the WCC (somehow) without a sponsor. Or losing it, but getting one. Which one would they choose?

I know which one I would.

[lebesset]

Getting a sponsor won't make up for having a worse driver.

Imagine them winning the WCC (somehow) without a sponsor. Or losing it, but getting one. Which one would they choose?

I know which one I would.

hard to believe they will have a chance at the WCC next year , and KM is promising is certainly promising so longer term he is not a bad bet ...not as good for next season maybe but still a reasonable choice

[AxialTurbine]

Forgetting the driving record of kmag for a moment why would McLaren want him, he won't be popular in many of the big motorsport countries so probably won't attract significant sponsors from those countries , paired with Alonso he will be overshadowed so in my view he makes a poor business proposition as well as having only a mediocre driving record...being cheap isn't enough he has to bring value.

[lio007]

Magnussens Physio left McLaren. Maybe a sign, that KM is out...time will tell.
https://twitter.com/AnttiVierula/status ... 2181329920

[mikeerfol]

Well tomorrow is December 1st...

[Manoah2u]

Perhaps, perhaps not. After all, the physio was working with Mclaren prior to Magnussen's arrival.

and KM is promising so longer term he is not a bad bet ...not as good for next season maybe but still a reasonable choice

For crying out loud.

is it so hard to get through?

http://www.grandprix247.com/2013/11/23/ ... whitmarsh/

Sergio Perez would still be at McLaren if one unnamed Formula 1 principal had not reneged on a deal to give Kevin Magnussen a drive for 2014

Whitmarsh told the official formula1.com website that the first choice had been to keep Perez and find Magnussen a place elsewhere on the grid

“I even did a deal and shook hands with a team principal up and down this paddock – an absolute deal – but he stepped back.

Whitmarsh said the end result was that McLaren decided the 23-year-old Perez would have to go, even though the Mexican had done a ‘decent job’ and deserved to stay in Formula 1.

Whitmarsh f#cked up. That is the only reason Magnussen was granted a seat @ MCL in 2014, and fell short humongeously.
Atleast Perez was able to give Button a run for his money. Whitmarsh sc*wed up big time.

There is no place for Magnussen on the 2015 grid, simple as that. I cannot understand how he can still be taken serious for that seat.

It's either Alonso-Button, or Alonso - fityourdriver. But Magnussen? no way. Neither will it be vandoorne, even IF vandoorne had some potential, he has a contract in another racing class for 2015 and there is no room for him at MClaren in 2015 because 1. he has zero experience and 2. Honda and shareholders have a say in it and there is no ffing way anybody on earth will take Mclaren serious anymore if they'll hammer in another rookie 3 times in a row.

It'll be either Button or another 'experienced' F1 driver from the grid.

Anyway, tomorrow is 1st of December. Expect either tomorrow or tuesday an announcement. Finally.

[mikeerfol]

Perhaps, perhaps not. After all, the physio was working with Mclaren prior to Magnussen's arrival.

I believe Magnussen's first year as a test driver for McLaren was 2010

EDIT Yes, indeed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/andre ... e_ful.html

[Manoah2u]

Perhaps, perhaps not. After all, the physio was working with Mclaren prior to Magnussen's arrival.

I believe Magnussen's first year as a test driver for McLaren was 2010

EDIT Yes, indeed http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/legacy/andre ... e_ful.html

thanks, that i did not know. Well that's clear cut enough then.

[Manoah2u]

Anyway, If i think about 'promising drivers' then Kamui Kobayashi comes to the mind on his Toyota debut, his season(s) with Sauber.

Sergio Perez comes to mind, on his Sauber performances where he (undoubtedly was blocked by ferrari on peril of overtaking alonso) got on podium. Perez in the Mclaren (a bit wild, true that). Bianchi in a friggin Marussia.
Jaime Alguersuari, whom completely demolished any chance of a future by going all-out against Helmut Marko.
Plenty of drivers come to mind that were/are promising. I wouldn't put K-Mag in that list. I'd say his first race was promising, and then it was instantly all over.

[KingHamilton01]

Don't believe what I am seeing written about Magnussen, so much potential and forgetting about the point difference where Magnussen has lost point's through unreliability and unfair penalties then he would be close to button's total of point's anyway. Also praised by quite a few people in formula one most notably Horner! but it won't matter if he is announced as Alonso's team mate as I am expecting.

[radosav]

Any news when will Mclaren announce their driver line up!?

[Manoah2u]

presumably either tomorrow or tuesday

[Hail22]

Any news when will Mclaren announce their driver line up!?

Very early in the morning in the U.K, you'd expect within the next 12 hours