That's just linear multiplication. What about Leclerc using DRS, undercut and forcing Max to push more in his 1st stint than he did? How would that have affected his strategy? Would he still be carelessly racing himself at the front?DoctorRadio wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 13:03
So Leclerc’s gap would have been 0.3s/lap, with a normal car.
I wonder if they'll make public what exactly went wrong with the brake temperatures.Xyz22 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 15:20I'm really upset about this mistake.
I still don't think that Leclerc would have been able to win, but I checked the laptimes for the 2023 Bahrain race and Leclerc in the first stint on the soft tyres (the most critical) built a 9.7s gap in 12 laps on Sainz. Of course, we don't know what would have happened in this race as the car is indeed completely different, but yeah...
Pretty accurate assessment there.Andres125sx wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 08:56Then I´ll repeat you what I already said to you several times, but you don´t accept because it doesn´t fit your narrativeVanja #66 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 14:25I can only give you the same reason as ever, but you don't accept it because it doesn't fit your view of Sainz. He has bigger potential than he is showing, he keeps making small mistakes which tend to have big consequences and is always satisfied even when he objectively should have finished higher. In other words, he's bs-ing himslef into believing he's maximising his race, every single race. As a racer, that's not the attitude you want.Andres125sx wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 14:04Some day, you should explain the reason for your obsession with Sainz family, so frequently blaming and defaming both the father and the son, for no reason
Sr has a toxic influence there, just like any other parent who fights the battles of their children and deprives them of a chance to grow. Telling children they are always the best and making up bs excuses why they didn't end up the best on a given occassion is a path diametrically opposite of success they want to achieve.
Sainz Sr. has no power at all at Ferrari, nothing, nill, none. Full stop. He´s never been part of the team, at any category, never, so please stop blaming, defaming and insulting him, it only make you look as a child who can´t accept when his favourite is defeated. Or maybe that is accurate and the problem is I consider you more mature than you really are?
About Sainz Jr. yeah I´m sure you were expecting him winning the race, sure Vanja. Please, do not mock the forum Vanja, any time Sainz beats Leclerc, you bash him. That is not because you were expecting him to finish higher exactly, but the other way around
Stop fooling the forum and/or yourself, you are unable to accept when Sainz finishes higher than Leclerc, and any time this happens, you derail and degrade the forum with aburd and nosense insults to him, and even to his father , wich is quite low, and degrade the forum to a point I can´t understand how moderators allow it
AnotherAlex wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:43
With utmost respect to both of them, the reality is a little depressing.
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Damon Hill's job is to say something.
It's a shame he's not still driving, then he wouldn't have derailed this thread with his asinine analysis.
Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 10:17Great stuff! This is the best visual way to show how much more Max was pushing this year, stints 2 and 3 were stunning. Max is mad about racing himself, I respect him for that. He has the equipment and he does not intend to waste it!chrisc90 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 15:04Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.
https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
I think it's all up in the air right now. If Max was pushing and they were only 0.3s/lap faster, then we have a season on our hands. It is also true that Bahrain isn't representative because it's very rear limited and I think most tracks aren't really like that. Jeddah will be the big test tbh. If the new rear wing works well and they confirm the car's ability in high/medium speed, then who knows...AR3-GP wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:47AnotherAlex wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:43
With utmost respect to both of them, the reality is a little depressing.
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Damon Hill's job is to say something.
It's a shame he's not still driving, then he wouldn't have derailed this thread with his asinine analysis.
Ferrari was reportedly only 3 tenths behind on Rb's best track after correcting for Leclerc's brake issues and Verstappen pushed in Bahrain:
Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 10:17Great stuff! This is the best visual way to show how much more Max was pushing this year, stints 2 and 3 were stunning. Max is mad about racing himself, I respect him for that. He has the equipment and he does not intend to waste it!chrisc90 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 15:04Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.
https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Based on this, it should be a competitive season. When the track favors Ferrari they could be ahead of RB in race pace and that's before you consider any updates that Ferrari brings and the extra windtunnel time that they have.
I'm not sure where all the doom and gloom is coming from on the forum. Bahrain is not a representative circuit. Ferrari nearly won it in 2019 and we know how that season went.
AR3-GP wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:47AnotherAlex wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:43
With utmost respect to both of them, the reality is a little depressing.
---
Damon Hill's job is to say something.
It's a shame he's not still driving, then he wouldn't have derailed this thread with his asinine analysis.
Ferrari was reportedly only 3 tenths behind on Rb's best track after correcting for Leclerc's brake issues and Verstappen pushed in Bahrain:
Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 10:17Great stuff! This is the best visual way to show how much more Max was pushing this year, stints 2 and 3 were stunning. Max is mad about racing himself, I respect him for that. He has the equipment and he does not intend to waste it!chrisc90 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 15:04Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.
https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Based on this, it should be a competitive season. When the track favors Ferrari they could be ahead of RB in race pace and that's before you consider any updates that Ferrari brings and the extra windtunnel time that they have.
I'm not sure where all the doom and gloom is coming from on the forum. Bahrain is not a representative circuit. Ferrari nearly won it in 2019 and we know how that season went.
No one is paying me for this
Bahrain being RB's best track in 2023 is a little misleading imo. It's only their best track because two teams had wheelchairs instead of cars at the start of 2023. Pretty sure that's not going to be the case this year.AR3-GP wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:47AnotherAlex wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:43
With utmost respect to both of them, the reality is a little depressing.
---
Damon Hill's job is to say something.
It's a shame he's not still driving, then he wouldn't have derailed this thread with his asinine analysis.
Ferrari was reportedly only 3 tenths behind on Rb's best track after correcting for Leclerc's brake issues and Verstappen pushed in Bahrain:
Vanja #66 wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 10:17Great stuff! This is the best visual way to show how much more Max was pushing this year, stints 2 and 3 were stunning. Max is mad about racing himself, I respect him for that. He has the equipment and he does not intend to waste it!chrisc90 wrote: ↑03 Mar 2024, 15:04Different tyres, but I think I merged the 2 charts right from 2023 and 2024 in photoshop.
https://i.ibb.co/6s5y3q5/Screenshot-202 ... 125719.jpg
Based on this, it should be a competitive season. When the track favors Ferrari they could be ahead of RB in race pace and that's before you consider any updates that Ferrari brings and the extra windtunnel time that they have.
I'm not sure where all the doom and gloom is coming from on the forum. Bahrain is not a representative circuit. Ferrari nearly won it in 2019 and we know how that season went.
Kind of agree with this but do still feel that many are exaggerating Red Bulls advantage for that same reason, I feel the advantage a lot perceive in 2024 is based on the advantage they had in 2023, I think many are ignoring that the size of that advantage owed a lot to the fact that their usual two nearest rivals turned up with flawed cars, cars that remained flawed all year, even if they were less flawed by season end.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 17:16Bahrain being RB's best track in 2023 is a little misleading imo. It's only their best track because two teams had wheelchairs instead of cars at the start of 2023. Pretty sure that's not going to be the case this year.AR3-GP wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:47AnotherAlex wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:43
With utmost respect to both of them, the reality is a little depressing.
---
Damon Hill's job is to say something.
It's a shame he's not still driving, then he wouldn't have derailed this thread with his asinine analysis.
Ferrari was reportedly only 3 tenths behind on Rb's best track after correcting for Leclerc's brake issues and Verstappen pushed in Bahrain:
Based on this, it should be a competitive season. When the track favors Ferrari they could be ahead of RB in race pace and that's before you consider any updates that Ferrari brings and the extra windtunnel time that they have.
I'm not sure where all the doom and gloom is coming from on the forum. Bahrain is not a representative circuit. Ferrari nearly won it in 2019 and we know how that season went.
I'm mostly drawing my conclusions from how ridiculously good their car is in high-speed corners in race trim compared to everyone else. I fail to see how Saudi Arabia will be any better.dia6olo wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 18:26Kind of agree with this but do still feel that many are exaggerating Red Bulls advantage for that same reason, I feel the advantage a lot perceive in 2024 is based on the advantage they had in 2023, I think many are ignoring that the size of that advantage owed a lot to the fact that their usual two nearest rivals turned up with flawed cars, cars that remained flawed all year, even if they were less flawed by season end.CouncilorIrissa wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 17:16Bahrain being RB's best track in 2023 is a little misleading imo. It's only their best track because two teams had wheelchairs instead of cars at the start of 2023. Pretty sure that's not going to be the case this year.AR3-GP wrote: ↑04 Mar 2024, 16:47
Ferrari was reportedly only 3 tenths behind on Rb's best track after correcting for Leclerc's brake issues and Verstappen pushed in Bahrain:
Based on this, it should be a competitive season. When the track favors Ferrari they could be ahead of RB in race pace and that's before you consider any updates that Ferrari brings and the extra windtunnel time that they have.
I'm not sure where all the doom and gloom is coming from on the forum. Bahrain is not a representative circuit. Ferrari nearly won it in 2019 and we know how that season went.