Ferrari F10

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Omnicorse magazine

Even Ferrari to Hockenheim will have a mapping of control unit that will delay time from engine, allowing the pilot to maintain engine in shooting even when these will take its foot off the accelerator. In this way it is possible that discharges blowers on the diffuser guarantee an additional downforce, while maintaining a minimum pressure which otherwise would lose in release phase. We say now that this is not a gimmick of Maranello, but yet another solution copied from Red Bul Racing and then developed taking into account the characteristics of F10. In Britain there is who was convinced that it was precisely thanks to this that the Rb6 have always something extra in capacity and various experts argued that the eight pole positions conquered on nine Gp were the fruit of this solution. Apparently we put with peace of mind because the ignition delay helps make the monoposto less unstable, but would those advantages be insured, seven tenths in one round on competition. Lingers sagacemente Adrian Newey has developed a strategy that Renault was using to safeguard its engines R30: the delay on/off, in fact, it was thought to improve the reliability of transalpine V8 and not to improve performance. Unlike what you thought and wrote, in fact, with this electronic mapping not inject more gasoline, but it makes sure that the intake and exhaust those you remain open at the same time for a moment. Then the exhaust gases, in release phase, would only hot air (otherwise there would a considerable increase of consumption): transalpine technicians had conceived this solution to reduce temperatures in the heart of the engine, thus extending the life of the engine. Adrian Newey, which is a perfectionist, tried to exploit this opportunity in aerodynamic terms: is it for this that has set the Rb6 with discharges blowers, but from what it was able to seize, this gimmick is not only useful for a lap in qualifying, but can be used in the race and not only for a ride. In short, the additional load can be useful to stabilize the single seater, ensuring a small increase of load, but certainly not the solution that makes slippery, the Red Bull, so the "hunting" starts over and went back to look with particular attention in the area of the suspensions. Ferrari, for its part, continues the development of a package which is optimized for maximum performance: the trial is conducted in a simulator from Alonso and Massa would have highlighted that the F10 with the latest news should be able to fight for the victory. We will see to Hockenheim, though the fear of technical director Aldo Costa is that it has not yet closed completely the gap by Webber and Vettel in qualifying lap: and it is precisely on this subject who are working hard at Maranello ... by Franco Nugnes

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ringo wrote:
timbo wrote:Seems like sidepods are undercut even more than before.
Yeah, and they may have relocated some of the electronics that would normally be under the radiators.
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That is now compared to launch. To me it looks like they haven't changed much at all around that area except for the mirrors, they might have tightened up the back end though (behind the shell logo).

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imightbewrong wrote:they might have tightened up the back end though (behind the shell logo).
Yes. Look how deep red stripes go.

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imightbewrong wrote:Courtesy of nextgen-auto.com:
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What is the oval bump in front of the slot in front of the rear wheel? It seems most of the cars have this. A temp sensor?

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volarchico wrote:What is the oval bump in front of the slot in front of the rear wheel? It seems most of the cars have this. A temp sensor?
It's been mentioned on this board as a temperature sensor before.

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FLOOR EXHAUST SYSTEM – BLOWN DIFFUSER EXHAUST PIPES

Ferrari brought at Valencia major upgrades to improve the car’s performance with the most striking of them to be the new blown diffuser exhaust pipes system ( inspired by Red Bull ) . The new lower to the floor placement of the exhaust pipes outlet triggered other major changes like a new sidepod shape , revised radiators housed inside the sidepods , new rear suspension geometry and a new gearbox case of carbon .
The floor exhaust configuration aims to shoot hot gas emissions directly to the lower rear car end to improve the aerodynamic efficiency of the diffuser and to change airflow management at the inner zone between the rear wheel and the car body .

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At Silverstone and during free testing sessions Ferrari had its exhaust pipes cut off at their end to permit a stronger interaction of the hot exhaust gases with the rear side airflow coming around the sidepods bottoms . This configuration was replaced by a new one with elongated pipes towards the rear end to blow hot emissions stronger to the diffuser . The later revision remained for the race . Both specs , the cut off and the elongated pipes configuration , can be considered to be extremities of the original design ( for less and stronger interaction with the diffuser respectively ) .

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At Hockenheim a revised diffuser is expected to cope better with the new elongated exhaust pipes system version
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bar555 wrote:At Hockenheim a revised diffuser is expected to cope better with the new elongated exhaust pipes system version
I was under the impression that the teams weren't allowed to have protruding exhausts, hence Ferrari having to cut them back last year. Am I mistaken?

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myurr wrote:
bar555 wrote:At Hockenheim a revised diffuser is expected to cope better with the new elongated exhaust pipes system version
I was under the impression that the teams weren't allowed to have protruding exhausts, hence Ferrari having to cut them back last year. Am I mistaken?
The problem was with 5cm minimum radius rule and it doesn't apply to the area around rear wheels.

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timbo wrote:
myurr wrote:
bar555 wrote:At Hockenheim a revised diffuser is expected to cope better with the new elongated exhaust pipes system version
I was under the impression that the teams weren't allowed to have protruding exhausts, hence Ferrari having to cut them back last year. Am I mistaken?
The problem was with 5cm minimum radius rule and it doesn't apply to the area around rear wheels.
Ah that would explain it. Thanks.

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myurr wrote:
volarchico wrote:What is the oval bump in front of the slot in front of the rear wheel? It seems most of the cars have this. A temp sensor?
It's been mentioned on this board as a temperature sensor before.
These look more like air pressure sensors, or air flow sensors, to measure the laminar flow oer the floor and into the diffuser.

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That "traction control" noise was back again on Massa's car just a mo ago in FP2.

Could it not just be a side effect of the repositioning of the exhausts, does sound strange. The McLaren definitely doesnt have it though, need an on board with the Sauber or Rosso to compare idealy.

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could it be from those different engine mappings?
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I think it is just an engine map setting which gives the engine just less power so it generates less wheelspin out of low gear corners.
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what's the difference between the ferrari "blown maping" and the RB's?
could RB have a form of traction control with their mappings too?
It's clever actually...

edit: is ferrari doing runs with a big amount of fuel now? first sector times look like that... or did it start to drizzle again?
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Traction control is not banned, active traction control is. By some people's definition the driver lifting of the gas is also traction control.
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