COVID-19 could affect more races this year.

[Just_a_fan]

This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.

Er, no.

The vast majority survive either by just suffering a small infection or by recovering in hospital from a more serious case.

The virus is especially dangerous for the old or those otherwise already ill. Young people have very low mortality rates.

So it won't end the human race at all. Even really nasty stuff like Ebola and Marburg aren't 100% fatal - not even close.

Rabies gets close but there is a vaccine.

Indeed there is no known virus that is 100% fatal. SARS-CoV-2 demonstrably isn't.

[Wass85]

It's all about genetics whether your body can or can't handle the virus, that's why on occasions it is killing younger people with no underlying health conditions.

This is also why the flu or the common cold can knock the stuffing out of individuals yet not have the same affect on others in the same household.

[strad]

This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.

Latest from the CDC says that the more we test the more we find that there may be millions of people who had it and recovered without ever knowing they had it and that the death rate may well be under 1%..way under.

[e30ernest]

This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.

Latest from the CDC says that the more we test the more we find that there may be millions of people who had it and recovered without ever knowing they had it and that the death rate may well be under 1%..way under.

That goes both ways though. There are a lot of people who have died who were never diagnosed/tested. We won't get a close to accurate number until this is well over.

[Fulcrum]

Judging by the data, the only country on the existing calendar in any position to hold a race in the immediate future is China. South Korea would be another option, but I'd consider that unlikely.

Spain an option too now

In 2-3 months time, possibly. Likewise Austria.

[Phil]

Indeed there is no known virus that is 100% fatal. SARS-CoV-2 demonstrably isn't.

Sometimes more dangerous as in a higher mortality rate isnt bad. If the host dies quicker, it cant spread as easily as people die before transmitting it. In this area, SARS-CoV-2 is very dangerous, as it is most infectious before the carrier shows symptoms and it takes a long time to develop acute and severe symptoms. Which is why it is spreading as it is.

As we continue to look at numbers today, if a country comes out of lockdown, you’ll only beginn to see the effect of that 2-4 weeks down the road.

It has taken this long (almost 4 weeks) to see our curve “flatten” after going into lockdown.

[Just_a_fan]

Indeed there is no known virus that is 100% fatal. SARS-CoV-2 demonstrably isn't.

Sometimes more dangerous as in a higher mortality rate isnt bad. If the host dies quicker, it cant spread as easily as people die before transmitting it. In this area, SARS-CoV-2 is very dangerous, as it is most infectious before the carrier shows symptoms and it takes a long time to develop acute and severe symptoms. Which is why it is spreading as it is.

As we continue to look at numbers today, if a country comes out of lockdown, you’ll only beginn to see the effect of that 2-4 weeks down the road.

It has taken this long (almost 4 weeks) to see our curve “flatten” after going into lockdown.

Even with "rebound" infections, the death toll will still be low as % of the population. SARS-CoV-2 isn't going to be killing many millions. We're at 127,000 worldwide, currently, which is a lot of people when viewed in isolation but it's not a "humanity dying out" situation.

What we've had is a modern day equivalent of the problems faced by indigenous peoples when faced by diseases brought by settlers from Europe back in the 16-19th Centuries. Except they were small populations with no real medicine and so easily were severely reduced/wiped out. Today we have a massive population and decent medicine which means deaths, whilst horrific when viewed in an individual way, are insignificant when viewed as the population as a whole. We're also fortunate that SAR-CoV-2 is a relatively mundane virus. Had it had the equivalent lethality of an Ebola or rabies, then we'd be staring disaster in the face.

As it is, SARS-CoV-2 is a great warning, a dry run if you will, for Governments and international responses to possible future "big things". It's to be hoped that lessons are learned and that we don't just go back to "business as usual". I know where my money is on that, sadly.

[nzjrs]

As it is, SARS-CoV-2 is a great warning, a dry run if you will, for Governments and international responses to possible future "big things". It's to be hoped that lessons are learned and that we don't just go back to "business as usual". I know where my money is on that, sadly.

The disappointing thing is that SARS 2002 was already this dry run, from which Asian countries learned a great deal and many western countries didn't learn very much.

[Capharol]

This virus could be the end of the human race unless we can eradicate it.

Im OK with opinions, but this is a bit panic inducing and dangerous.

as a matter of fact its a total "dumb" statement, because we have 7.594 billion ppl on the world if the dying rate is really 5% of that, the humanity isn't gonna be eradicated .....

but anyhow just let it be with these "dumb" statements, it causes unnecessarily stress/panic

[Jambier]

So, SPA is not possible now

No public gathering until August 31.

I hoped season to start here, but it will be later

[izzy]

So, SPA is not possible now

No public gathering until August 31.

I hoped season to start here, but it will be later

yes no Spa, there just won't be any public gatherings this year will there, it's just not going to be possible to guarantee nobody among 50,000 or whatever crowd is infectious or more or less everyone is immune

only closed doors races are possible, at tracks that are fenced. It might hopefully be possible for 400-600 tested people to gather together there, once isolating rules start to get relaxed, that's the best we can hope for afaics

[3jawchuck]

So, SPA is not possible now
No public gathering until August 31.
I hoped season to start here, but it will be later

...
only closed doors races are possible, at tracks that are fenced. It might hopefully be possible for 400-600 tested people to gather together there, once isolating rules start to get relaxed, that's the best we can hope for afaics

Testing will still probably not cut it. At least in my country and the country in which I live the current law states a maximum size of gathering (10 and 6 people FWIW). It does not specify anything about testing, and it is unlikely the governments of either will change that for a low importance event like a closed off, staff only GP. An event like that will not bring much to the local economy and could backfire spectacularly.

[izzy]

Testing will still probably not cut it. At least in my country and the country in which I live the current law states a maximum size of gathering (10 and 6 people FWIW). It does not specify anything about testing, and it is unlikely the governments of either will change that for a low importance event like a closed off, staff only GP. An event like that will not bring much to the local economy and could backfire spectacularly.

yes it's too soon still isn't it and i probably should have said "tested and quarantined". Here in the UK they're starting to talk about more kids going back to school, i think by July things might have relaxed enough. They can't keep lockdown at this current level for too long, sooner or later there'll be a crossover where the risks from lockdown are worse than allowing some more movement. Already here they're starting to look at the deaths from other causes that might be affected by lockdown

[aral]

Some weird and wonderful figures are being flouted about by some. Doing this is scaremongering. We have someone stating that the death rate is 5% of the world population....it isnt. The death rate is calculated against the numbers who have contracted coronavirus and it is not even 5% of those. And then the contracting rate of the virus is absolutely minute against the total population
and yes, older people are more at risk of death IF they contract the virus, as they often have underlying conditions which add to the problems and their immune system is also less able to counteract the virus. However, there are many many old people who have contracted the virus and have had no symptoms, and continue to lead happy lives.
Children can also contract the virus, and again, it will depend on their basic health and also their immune systems as to how it affects them. In fact, the median age for people contracting the virus is 44-55.
As for when racing will start, there is absolutely little point in speculating as nobody knows how the virus will progress, and until a vaccine is found, the virus will still be around and infecting people. It is practically impossibe to have racing " behind closed doors" so dont rely on such an event happening. Racing will start when it starts, and where there is no risk of anybody being exposed to covid 19
And then there is the supposed flat line....that means little as all it is proving at present is that with more people isolating, fewer people are being exposed to the spread. Also that the hospital system is handling the influx.
Instead of being concerned as to when racing will restart, give more thought to those who are really suffering

[izzy]

As for when racing will start, there is absolutely little point in speculating as nobody knows how the virus will progress, and until a vaccine is found, the virus will still be around and infecting people. It is practically impossibe to have racing " behind closed doors" so dont rely on such an event happening. Racing will start when it starts, and where there is no risk of anybody being exposed to covid 19
And then there is the supposed flat line....that means little as all it is proving at present is that with more people isolating, fewer people are being exposed to the spread. Also that the hospital system is handling the influx.
Instead of being concerned as to when racing will restart, give more thought to those who are really suffering

i agree with most of your post but Ross Brawn has specifically mentioned the possibility of racing behind closed doors, so if you want to argue otherwise you need to explain and do it as part of debating on a forum, and speculating definitely has a point it's part of discussion and social interaction swapping ideas and knowledge

as for your last sentence, this is an F1 forum and a thread about the effect of Covid-19 on the races. there are lots of places we all probably talk about all the various aspects of it and the suffering, just because we're here discussing this topic doesn't mean we're not talking about the rest of it in other places