McLaren MP4-26 Mercedes

[tjaeger]

One really got to love the car design, features, risk and all smarts that has been put into it. These guys really got balls to come up with an intricate design, ideas, aero like this.
I hope that they get it at least half decent working soon, they definitely deserve it.

Guess you can try to understand all the technical details, ideas, aerodynamics, loads and so on and on forever.

[clarkiesyeah]

On the second picture, perhaps i'm going mad, but it looks like they are running a diffuser with more vanes on the right of the crash structure and fewer on the left. Perhaps linked to the odd front wing angles on previous pics.

[Poleman]

On the second picture, perhaps i'm going mad, but it looks like they are running a diffuser with more vanes on the right of the crash structure and fewer on the left. Perhaps linked to the odd front wing angles on previous pics.

You are definately right...I cannot see the vanes that equals to the left side either...What kind of weird tricks are these?...That partially explains why the car havent been setting fast times in the last tests.

[raymondu999]

Well McLaren has seemed to hate symmetry for quite some time now...

[Formula None]

*right click > view image*

You can see the diffuser vanes between the vents on the endplate extension.

[clarkiesyeah]

I can see one vane there on the left, but i cant see the more inboard one on the right. Even if it is obscured it's a development, i think. Is this the first time we've seen macca run more than one vane on their diffuser?

[clarkiesyeah]

Looking at the pic some more i notice that the vane to the far right under the duffuser appears to be a series of tiny vanes, similar to the endplate extensions but miniturised. I see at least ten tiny vertical vanes when I zoom in.
Facinating

[Robbobnob]

i think you'll find that its just 1 single vane, the pattern your interpreting as tiny vanes is simply just the weave in the carbon fibre

[clarkiesyeah]

I am open to that posibility, I just thought i could see road through the "tiny" gaps.
When did they add the extra vane anyway? Looking at earlier pics the diffuser was very basic only comprising one vane either side of the crash structure.

[volarchico]

Left side of the wing is flat as well

Thanks Diesel, I tried to point that out a while ago, but some thought it was a camera angle or optical illusion...

If you notice the eye-roll graphic, he was being sarcastic. He (and I) both were ones who thought it was symmetric and just the camera angle. He also feels that all posts regarding wing asymmetry should be moved into a separate thread.

[clarkiesyeah]

Left side of the wing is flat as well

Thanks Diesel, I tried to point that out a while ago, but some thought it was a camera angle or optical illusion...

If you notice the eye-roll graphic, he was being sarcastic. He (and I) both were ones who thought it was symmetric and just the camera angle. He also feels that all posts regarding wing asymmetry should be moved into a separate thread.

I'm fed up of having to play "find the post" personally. There are currently two other threads not including this one with MP4-26 relevant posts. We do not need another one.
Did it occur to you Diesel, that this forum has other people in it who have just as much right to post as you? The irony is there is nothing more "off topic" than moaning about posts being off topic. Get real.


Edit: There I was trying to talk about the car, in the car thread but others think its better to talk about what should or shouldn't be talked about. I mean, come on

I know lets have a thread started for people to moan about what other members have posted, that would be nice.

[speedsense]

Left side of the wing is flat as well

Thanks Diesel, I tried to point that out a while ago, but some thought it was a camera angle or optical illusion...

If you notice the eye-roll graphic, he was being sarcastic. He (and I) both were ones who thought it was symmetric and just the camera angle. He also feels that all posts regarding wing asymmetry should be moved into a separate thread.

So this isn't about the MP4-26? Two different camera angles, showing the same thing, interesting that none of the other parts on the car have an "illusion" just the parts that can be adjusted up or down, interesting....
I would have concurred on the Illusion aspect on one photo, but not two.....

And to top that, the vanes on the inside of the diffuser (not the wing end plates vanes, as pointed out by others) are missing on the left side of the car and there are two on the right side.. more asymmetry on the MP4-26? You'll need to blow up the picture for this... another illusion? Not hardly, None of the three pictures is an illusion...

[imightbewrong]

So this isn't about the MP4-26? Two different camera angles, showing the same thing, interesting that none of the other parts on the car have an "illusion" just the parts that can be adjusted up or down, interesting....
I would have concurred on the Illusion aspect on one photo, but not two.....

And to top that, the vanes on the inside of the diffuser (not the wing end plates vanes, as pointed out by others) are missing on the left side of the car and there are two on the right side.. more asymmetry on the MP4-26? You'll need to blow up the picture for this... another illusion? Not hardly, None of the three pictures is an illusion...

I'm sorry. But they are optical illusions. The last one is easily provable if you just zoom in. You can see one of the vanes between the slits on the end plate. But here, I made a picture for you, actually showing it.


Now we can all agree that pictures can some times fool you? Well, now put on some parallax and you got the illusion of an asymmetric front wing. Here, put some reference lines in for you between reference points. Doesn't look so asymmetrical now, does it?

[Owen.C93]

That black piece wouldn't move when you adjust the wing anyway. Although your right it proabbly is an illusion, not helped the the right side has the tip of the element cut off by the nose, making it look shorter.

[bot6]

Look at the structural design here guys. The way the diffuser and rear wing uprights are held by those thin posts, acting as splitters for the slotted extension of the uprights behind the diffuser, with the whole thing bound to the crash structure using the beam wing.

This is some beautiful coupled structural / aerodynamic engineering with impressive attention to detail.

Whether or not this L sidepod thing ends up winning races, you can't say that the Mackie Boys don't put some serious effort in. And they've got some serious skill in the details.