2016 Malaysian Grand Prix - Sepang, 30th-2nd October

[muhammadtalha.13893]

Vettel was on the apex

Haha. Vettel was on the apex, Yes, but was he turning? No. When he hit Rosberg, he was going straight. Such was his speed so no, no way he was going to make the corner without colliaion even if Rosberg left some more room.

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[Fulcrum]

No need for a penalty for the 1st lap. Vettel was tight to the apex, needed some extra meters to brake properly, and probably thought of running Verstappen wide as well. This coincided with Rosberg choosing to take a tighter line hugging the apex. Bad luck for all involved. If no-one takes a chance, no-one has an accident.

Similar to China.

China - Malaysia
Raikkonen - Rosberg
Vettel - Verstappen
Kvyat - Vettel

In both cases Vettel ended up being the one making contact. Was the contact entirely of his own making? No. Was he partly responsible, I think so. Pretty much the definition of a racing incident.

[atanatizante]

Now they`ll analyze the ICE and had they find something that could affect his remaining 2 engines!
Saying that there are at least 2 questions to be answered:
1. Have they enough time - 4 days - in order to investigate and produce a safer/better solution?
2. Could they change that faulty item without inquiring a penalty or they could say it`s a change for reliability reason?
3. What effects has on both drivers those token left to be utilize until the end of the season?

On another note, seeing some actions during the race on the Sky pad you end of saying :
" - How much luck do you have left Nico? Turn one incident with Seb ending with nothing but a harmless spin ... No broken suspension - like Seb has had - and more so no one at the back of the pack touches him ... And then with Kimi incident no puncture after touching his FW endplate ... so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

[dans79]

so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

He probably sold his soul to the devil......

[iotar__]

so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

He probably sold his soul to the devil......

You think it's necessary to dominate Hamilton like in Singapore? No, just better driving.

- Mercedes returned Red Bull the favour for Monaco win. Spain was nice too but in the other direction. Remember who caused, who benefited from those and who lost? Let me give you a clue H... and R... There was this sabotage against Rosberg in the form of team orders too.

- 15 points here. 7 for Spain (25-18) = 8 left. Now Monaco: team orders, bad stop for Ricciardo, two bad stops for Rosberg + pace = 17 (25 -8) Normal race: 5 places grid for causing collision (FIA cheating) start 8 compared to two, no team orders, leading driver gets pitstops, no botched pitstop = although amount of points is speculative there's no way Hamilton gets in front regardless of pace when he couldn't on his own in the wet when differences were the biggest and
- So unless you can't count to 15 or a lot more more I suggest reconsidering your position about 'luck'. If it's a case of blind fanaticism forget about it, it's not even directed at you - waste of time to reason.

[i70q7m7ghw]

so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

He probably sold his soul to the devil......

You think it's necessary to dominate Hamilton like in Singapore? No, just better driving.

- Mercedes returned Red Bull the favour for Monaco win. Spain was nice too but in the other direction. Remember who caused, who benefited from those and who lost? Let me give you a clue H... and R... There was this sabotage against Rosberg in the form of team orders too.

- 15 points here. 7 for Spain (25-18) = 8 left. Now Monaco: team orders, bad stop for Ricciardo, two bad stops for Rosberg + pace = 17 (25 -8) Normal race: 5 places grid for causing collision (FIA cheating) start 8 compared to two, no team orders, leading driver gets pitstops, no botched pitstop = although amount of points is speculative there's no way Hamilton gets in front regardless of pace when he couldn't on his own in the wet when differences were the biggest and
- So unless you can't count to 15 or a lot more more I suggest reconsidering your position about 'luck'. If it's a case of blind fanaticism forget about it, it's not even directed at you - waste of time to reason.

Are you just ranting? Your post doesn't appear to make any sense...

It's clear Hamilton has had most of the unreliability this year, but he's also driven some shoddy races.

[matt_b]

On another note, seeing some actions during the race on the Sky pad you end of saying :
" - How much luck do you have left Nico? Turn one incident with Seb ending with nothing but a harmless spin ... No broken suspension - like Seb has had - and more so no one at the back of the pack touches him ... And then with Kimi incident no puncture after touching his FW endplate ... so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

I think Nico's side of the garage apply bullet proof spray for qualifying and the race. It was even good to carry on in Spain but it was beached in the gravel.

[atanatizante]

...
On another note, seeing some actions during the race on the Sky pad you end of saying :
" - How much luck do you have left Nico? Turn one incident with Seb ending with nothing but a harmless spin ... No broken suspension - like Seb has had - and more so no one at the back of the pack touches him ... And then with Kimi incident no puncture after touching his FW endplate ... so I ask you one more time Nico : how muck luck do you have left? "

Ha, ha, ha, I saw that Martin Brundle quoted me - my post above - on Sky !
Mr. Brundle, you must mention me next time ... this time I let you free

[turbof1]

As a pre-emptive measure, please keep the discussions regarding Hamilton and Rosberg clean, reasonable and respectfull.

[RA168E]

As a Hamilton fan, it pains me to see him lose such an easy victory due to a piston deciding it no longer wanted that engine to work. But his comments afterwards did make sense, although he makes it seem like sabotage. Kind of like Maldonado in 2013. But alas, it happens to all drivers at some point. It does seem strange that hes the only one thats had these issues. Kind of strange, even for F1.

[TwanV]

fantastic race. Hamilton thoroughly deserved to win today, seeing him on the timing screens though out the second stint was frightening. I was very surprised seeing Ricciardo fight verstappen before Hamilton retired as they were racing for the win (not saying he would've made it holding on to the 23 seconds required, it's a bit touch and go), but I suppose RIC had a premonition on what was going to happen, interesting. I doubt verstappen really needed that pitstop however prudent it was. Nevertheless, RIC stood his ground and red bull probably felt he deserved a win after some unfortunate earlier moments this season, VES included.

edit: confirmed in an interview for Dutch TV, VES was going to run until the end on the hard tires until Hamiltons demise changed their strategy in favour of (in my view) a safe 1-2 handing it to RIC.

[Peter1919]

I wonder if the failure is anything to do with them rushing to build Hamilton 3 new engines to put in his car at Spa. I believe this was the first race he had used this engine so normally you would not expect a failure compared to increased likelihood if its done a few races already.

[TheGkbrk]

What a race! Best of the season so far.
Vettel was the one to blame for the first corner incident imo but it wasn't worth a penalty. Watching Red Bulls battle so cleanly was amazing. Lewis drove very well but was unlucky to end the race like that. It was nice to watch different strategies as well. Nico overtook Rai lovely but the 10 sec penalty was stupid.
And I don't understand why people say Nico can't hold a candle to Lewis. You can say one is better that the other but saying "can't hold a candle" is exaggeration.
Aaand Mclaren Honda. They were fairly in the midfield mix with two cars in the points, one of the best weekends for the team. Fernando drove brilliantly.
Congrats to Palmer on his first point btw.

[Gothrek]

I wonder if the failure is anything to do with them rushing to build Hamilton 3 new engines to put in his car at Spa. I believe this was the first race he had used this engine so normally you would not expect a failure compared to increased likelihood if its done a few races already.

I don't know if it applies to engines, but for reliability you normally have some bathtub curve.


Might be that the engine still was in the burn in phase?

Also with regards to the Verstappen / Vettel Collision, looking from camera images above, it looks like Verstappen touched Vettel, which made him Tbone Rosberg.

[Redragon]

With so many Mercedes engines Why only me is having problems? says Hamilton and Brundle straight up goes to speculate about that too.
Maybe is not Mercedes engine but how you drive it or do with it. It could be equally Hamilton fault if you look at it from the Mercedes engine point of view.
Imaging for a moment if Toto was saying we have so many Mercedes engines but only Hamilton blows up, he might be doing something wrong.
Sometimes luck is not with you and that's it.