2023 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring, July 21 - 23

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:06
HAM had a bit of understeer in the penultimate corner too.
Aye, when the rear was squirming around coming out of the last final I was convinced it wasn’t on.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:07
Mogster wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:00
Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 16:37

It limits running in general. Max, Lewis and Lando have all spoken against it. Lando even said that if it hadn't rained, then people wouldn't have run much at all.
People pay for race weekend tickets to see F1 cars on track not in the garages.

When are new drivers supposed to settle and develop if there’s so little running? There’s the sim but it’s hardly the same as real track time.
Exactly. And the tyre allocation rule will reduce that which is bad for the spectators.
So why not only have hard? They could get away with just 5 sets then.
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Mogster wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:16
PlatinumZealot wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:06
HAM had a bit of understeer in the penultimate corner too.
Aye, when the rear was squirming around coming out of the last final I was convinced it wasn’t on.

=D>
Probably lost half a tenth with the correction in that corner I would guess?

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Nice qualifying format in the end
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McLaren is onto something great, what a turnaround they have made. Will be really interesting to see how the car handles the race in high temps. If they are in close to race winner Verstappen tomorrow, they might actually be on for a win on merit soon.
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Lewis pole is the pole Alonso should have had in monaco.redbull are vulnerable without straightline advantage

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Tvetovnato wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:18
McLaren is onto something great, what a turnaround they have made. Will be really interesting to see how the car handles the race in high temps. If they are in close to race winner Verstappen tomorrow, they might actually be on for a win on merit soon.
That dirty side of the grid at Hungary is a problem. Max off the line really needs to just focus on keeping Lando at bay. If he can do that, the RB race pace should work itself by the Merc, even if it takes the first pit stops.

Still, what an injection of life that qualifying brought!
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Big Tea wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:16
Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:07
Mogster wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:00


People pay for race weekend tickets to see F1 cars on track not in the garages.

When are new drivers supposed to settle and develop if there’s so little running? There’s the sim but it’s hardly the same as real track time.
Exactly. And the tyre allocation rule will reduce that which is bad for the spectators.
So why not only have hard? They could get away with just 5 sets then.
Well, 5 sets is even fewer tyres and they wouldn't run at all in one or two FP sessions meaning even less on-track action for the spectators.
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This is f1 2013 all over again 😂

Red Bull dominates everywhere! Hamilton gets pole at Hungary…Vettel goes on to take 9 out of 9 wins 😂
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Got to say that Max is likely to win tomorrow and it's between Lewis and Lando fighting for P2. Lando has Piastri for company too which means McLaren can play strategy - something neither Max nor Lewis can do.
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Did anyone notice Zhou qualifying 5th?? 🤯
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Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:27
Got to say that Max is likely to win tomorrow and it's between Lewis and Lando fighting for P2. Lando has Piastri for company too which means McLaren can play strategy - something neither Max nor Lewis can do.
New set of mediums for Norris could bring him into the mix for win maaaaybe

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organic wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:28
Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:27
Got to say that Max is likely to win tomorrow and it's between Lewis and Lando fighting for P2. Lando has Piastri for company too which means McLaren can play strategy - something neither Max nor Lewis can do.
New set of mediums for Norris could bring him into the mix for win maaaaybe
As much as I would love to believe it, Red Bull’s race pace is in another league…

Perez makes it into Q3 at last, ends up 9th! Ricciardo 13th on his first try back! I know it’s early days but still interesting…
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organic wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:28
Just_a_fan wrote:
22 Jul 2023, 17:27
Got to say that Max is likely to win tomorrow and it's between Lewis and Lando fighting for P2. Lando has Piastri for company too which means McLaren can play strategy - something neither Max nor Lewis can do.
New set of mediums for Norris could bring him into the mix for win maaaaybe
True - tyres will be hugely important with the temperature likely tomorrow. Being able to keep a set together without losing some lap time will be key. Being a tenth faster but killing the tyres in 10 laps isn't helpful.
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Well, at least we get some sort of race tomorrow..

Verstappen didn't put a whole lap together on a single run, but still managed to put 4 tenths on perez in the end.
Looking at sector times hamilton is not ballistic fast but managed to string together a pretty good lap.
It's still hard to say Ver is not favourite for the race, but it certainly wont be a walkover of any kind. He could face a serious challenge from behind and Hamilton won't be slow in the race. RB is just not that fast on this track. I don't expect anyone being able to overtake during first stint, which will be just a bunch of tyre saving.

AR pace out of nowhere, ahead of ferrari. wtf is up with that?

Mclaren will definitely be ahead of aston for the rest of the season, unless something major happens. Impressive development there. Maybe aston can give some headaches at street circuits, but that's about it. Astons downfall is as astonishing as mclaren resurgence in my opinion.