Mercedes W16

[Matt2725]

Just to throw a spanner on the discussion: Are we sure that the camera mount is not flexing?

But yes, all rear wings flex to some extent and this perspective discussion is not relevant to THIS car in particular... feel free to split the discussion to a different thread if you wish.

I was wondering this. I made a post around pre-season testing, where it looked like the entire rear of the W16 was flexing. The more obvious answer would be the T-cam is flexing as you suggest.

[SiLo]

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@xavigazquez

That is a giant beam wing!

[Farnborough]

Just to throw a spanner on the discussion: Are we sure that the camera mount is not flexing?

But yes, all rear wings flex to some extent and this perspective discussion is not relevant to THIS car in particular... feel free to split the discussion to a different thread if you wish.

A good point, but effectively it wouldn't change the views given by the image analysis here.

What moving the camera (gyro etc) does is simply move the field of view around, without changing the perspective (geometry within the recorded image) just relocation within image record plane. That because the camera mount didn't change or move it's location on the chassis. Just realignment on those images (as Vanja has done) still offers us the true movement to see.

To simplify, if you stood distant to an object and looked at it, you couldn't see what is behind that object. If you rotated your head the view doesn't change, whichever direction you were to move your head . That's effectively what gyro is doing.

To change perspective you'd need to move in one or more of three axis, up/down, left/right, back/forward, then the image geometry shifts. If that were to happen between frames, then they couldn't be "transposed" to make something of finite comparison.

The camera mount doesn't move location, the object (side plane of engine cover spine) in base of image also offers valid reference to realign field of view. This because it is definitely part of that structure the camera is mounted to, dimension stable in other words.

Because the camera mount position doesn't change on the chassis, then this offers by default that the wing is absolutely moving as noted in the analysis given.

There's other things in this that are not really for discussion in detail of this thread though, that's if its to consider what the FIA take from it.

[Farnborough]

Nope ... the critical component to record, onto the flat plane image capture are:- focal length, fixed position & distance from subject ..... none of which change here.

All that has to be done is pick the images that are most relevant, the perspective is NOT changing.

It's important to recognise optical constraints IF it's to be quoted as criticism of the posts about what the wing is doing.

There's nothing wrong here in the image analysis by Vanja ..... but I suspect that the thread will be "modded" if the discussion continues to offer false claims by those that don't understand optical performance and perspective.

Thanks

I agree with the mod, only have discussions about Flexi-Wings outside of this one because this thread is only for the car. If there is a Flexi-Wing thread, it’s already open.

It is pertinent to this thread though. A very detailed component in its structure, the front wing too, that are substantial part of this classis performance envelope.
Effectively the best that this technical team have so far developed in reality. The discussion has only been about the intricacies of W16.

What's not pertinent though, is uninformed views that contest technical content without understanding what it they are projecting. Perhaps those questions should be focused within the wing discussion thread.
I do think its part of this W16 core topic and should be left in situ for continuity.

Its a clever design, which may also have changing rules clarification impinge apon it.

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Mercedes did not bring any aerodynamic innovations to Bahrain but, as far as I understand, they have mechanical innovations in the car