Lotus E21 Renault

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iotar__
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mikeerfol wrote:
anzx wrote:will be lotus racing long wheel base car?
It will return in Suzuka I think.
Korea is earlier this season. It's going to be the mother of all combinations of updates, Device, longer wheel-base and whatever they have now. And it's going to rain all weekend :o .

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iotar__ wrote:
mikeerfol wrote:
anzx wrote:will be lotus racing long wheel base car?
It will return in Suzuka I think.
Korea is earlier this season. It's going to be the mother of all combinations of updates, Device, longer wheel-base and whatever they have now. And it's going to rain all weekend :o .
Oh yes, forgot about that one.. :oops:

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Omnicorse.it Lotus: the FIA ​​had rejected the long wheelbase at Monza!

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The news was kept secret until Singapore: Lotus could not use the E21 long wheelbase in the Italian Grand Prix at Monza, because the FIA has deemed it illegal. According to Piola, T-tray was extended to conform with Art. 3.12.2, but the skid block wasn't.

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Why lie about it? It's not a big deal.

It also explains why they're not running it in Singapore, which was a bit weird, considering they were ready to race it Monza.

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now it's clear, sadly they are running out of ideas..

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anzx wrote:now it's clear, sadly they are running out of ideas..
Also running out of ppl to design a car :P

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Singapore 2013 - Saturday (21.09.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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techF1LES wrote:Omnicorse.it Lotus: the FIA ​​had rejected the long wheelbase at Monza!

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The news was kept secret until Singapore: Lotus could not use the E21 long wheelbase in the Italian Grand Prix at Monza, because the FIA has deemed it illegal. According to Piola, T-tray was extended to conform with Art. 3.12.2, but the skid block wasn't.
I think this really was on purpose? As they sad in interviews before Monza. It is just some sort test bench for to help implemented recently updated driver simulator. Could be possibility or is just shear clumsiness and lack of funds?
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Extending the wheelbase of the car at this stage of the season strikes me as a very odd thing to do. The wheelbase is just not something you change unless you feel you have it completely wrong. To spend a ton of money on something you can't race, well, it's a disaster.

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But as far as I know, the LWB was deemed to be illegal due to something they did wrong in the tea tray area, not the wheelbase itself and they knew it from the start.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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munudeges wrote:Extending the wheelbase of the car at this stage of the season strikes me as a very odd thing to do. The wheelbase is just not something you change unless you feel you have it completely wrong. To spend a ton of money on something you can't race, well, it's a disaster.
Its the first major part coming from their updated facilities and thats why they wanted to get it out and see if they actually got the results they were hoping for.

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You don't change the wheelbase on a car at this stage of a season, or indeed, ever. It's an admission that the car is, well, wrong. I'm afraid their 'updated facilities' smack of losing the plot.

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This season was pretty much lost. It is quite clear they wont beat either Mercedes or Ferrari and there is quite a gap behind them.

So with that said, they can focus on 2014, focus on making sure everything works. My guess we have got a big chance that we will see a longer wheelbase(or you won't really see it lol) Lotus in 2014.
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Korea 2013 - Thursday (03.10.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Korea 2013 - Friday (04.10.2013)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985