Mercedes W14

[Venturiation]

if he followed more the green petronas line you have approximatevly the same line in W13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAlJ8MXgAA ... name=large

The lines are meant to follow the contours of the bodywork not the livery lol

i know but if he followed the rear it's the same shape

[Venturiation]

if he followed more the green petronas line you have approximatevly the same line in W13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAlJ8MXgAA ... name=large

Those lines look nothing alike in my view

on the W13 dont stop drawing so soon, keep going to the rear until below the R of petronas and you see that the shape is very similar

[Vanja #66]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWw_0WIAA ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWxh1WcAA ... name=large

Much longer sidepods than launch spec W13 and much wider than zeropods. Those are history indeed.

Also I'm really not a fan of clogging the rear wing airflow with such a bulky engine cover, but that's just me. W14 solution with gutters in that zone looks well worked out and better than any other team going that way (unless RB19 has something similar).

I was wrong here, AMR23 has those same engine cover gutters.

[michl420]

They focus on less louvres and more hot air to the rear exit, like almost everyone. From a technical point it is an interesting car for me. From an estetic it is ugly.

[Goblin42]

Barely any paint. My assumption is they weren't able to hit the minimum weight without abandoning their silver paint scheme.

Sometimes it's not enough to hit the minimum weight, the teams would like to play with ballast to change the weight distribution for the car here's an example from last year's Alphatuari front wing

[clownfish]

Apparently Mercedes’ shakedown did not go according to plan.

could the rumored more hp causing this?

It was a mounting issue which caused ignition problems.

Is this a trust worthy account?

[214270]

if he followed more the green petronas line you have approximatevly the same line in W13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAlJ8MXgAA ... name=large

The lines are meant to follow the contours of the bodywork not the livery lol

SIPS is included in one and omitted in the other. If you remove SIPS from the sketch of the W13 it’s the same shape lower. The repackaging is fooling a lot of people

[AR3-GP]

if he followed more the green petronas line you have approximatevly the same line in W13

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAlJ8MXgAA ... name=large

Those lines look nothing alike in my view

on the W13 dont stop drawing so soon, keep going to the rear until below the R of petronas and you see that the shape is very similar

They look nothing alike. One is convex aft of the driver. The other is concave aft of the driver.

[edgelo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWw_0WIAA ... name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FpAWxh1WcAA ... name=large

Much longer sidepods than launch spec W13 and much wider than zeropods. Those are history indeed.

Also I'm really not a fan of clogging the rear wing airflow with such a bulky engine cover, but that's just me. W14 solution with gutters in that zone looks well worked out and better than any other team going that way (unless RB19 has something similar).

I was wrong here, AMR23 has those same engine cover gutters.

To my knowledge makes more sense the rear end cannon in the case of the AMR23 (and Alfa and almost all the rest but Ferrari) because they want to push the flow to the ramps and direct it over the diffuser and the beam wing.

But in the case of W14 I would expect them to leave the stream go free over the cover engine down. I don’t get where they mainly intend to bring the air to feed the diffuser in an orderly manner.

Am I entirely wrong?

[edgelo]

could the rumored more hp causing this?

It was a mounting issue which caused ignition problems.

Is this a trust worthy account?

No, it’s not

He might know a couple of people, but he sure wouldn't be the first to know.

[johnny comelately]

Has this been posted yet? (from B Sport), if so i will delete

[Venturiation]

something fell from the car

[NoDivergence]

something fell from the car

That's not from the car

[Vanja #66]

To my knowledge makes more sense the rear end cannon in the case of the AMR23 (and Alfa and almost all the rest but Ferrari) because they want to push the flow to the ramps and direct it over the diffuser and the beam wing.

But in the case of W14 I would expect them to leave the stream go free over the cover engine down. I don’t get where they mainly intend to bring the air to feed the diffuser in an orderly manner.

Am I entirely wrong?

All teams bar Ferrari and Haas chose more centerline cooling, so it makes sense they need taller engine covers. While they are there, they simply extend the bodywork and make the wide outlet in a low pressure zone under the rear wing. It's not a bad design at all in that regard, I just prefer what Ferrari and Haas do. In my view, maximising rear wing performance is key to keep the drag down.

[chrstphrln]

Toto says yes, the sidepods are the first iteration and it is already planned to have revised them after a few races.
For me, that means that it was noticed too late that the revised concept simply doesn't have the potential that Mercedes had hoped for for a long time.
Even if Toto downplays the influence of the sidepods, the interview sounds very much like a farewell to their current sidepod concept.

https://www.motorsport-total.com/formel ... n-23021511