2024 Austrian Grand Prix - Spielberg, June 28 - 30

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Great job Perez on improving so much!

And I believe track limits with a gravel bed a car width next to the track should not be judged

[langedweil]

Great job Perez on improving so much!

And I believe track limits with a gravel bed a car width next to the track should not be judged

True, but it's still 0.7s ..

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Great job Perez on improving so much!

And I believe track limits with a gravel bed a car width next to the track should not be judged

True, but it's still 0.7s ..

today Perez didn't have tires left for Q3, so his lap was set on used softs.

This obviously was the case due to his own fault as well, but explains part of the gap at least.

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Max is on another league, not Red Bull. The guy embarassed the whole grid today.

Yes max simply sitting in the car adds 20 points of downforce

[chrisc90]

McLaren have protested the qualifying results.

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I'm wondering if Honda have made progress on their high altitude engine mapping this year, among other things. Only the Honda cars have gone faster than last year. It won't be entirely down to that, but I could not help but notice it is only the Honda cars that went faster.

[chrisc90]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRQDVEPW4AA ... name=large

I'm wondering if Honda have made progress on their high altitude engine mapping this year, among other things. Only the Honda cars have gone faster than last year. It won't be entirely down to that, but I could not help but notice it is only the Honda cars that went faster.

Certainly interesting vs the large improvements we've seen at tracks previously this year vs last.

[chrisc90]

What did yuki say on the radio to get into bother?

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What did yuki say on the radio to get into bother?

"These guys are f*cking retarted."

Not sure what kind of penalty this comes with, but it better be huge.

[venkyhere]

I have to eat my words after being the biggest advocate of "McLaren is the fastest car now" over the past week. And hereby I do.

RBR did some change between sprint and quali, that not only amplified the gains in 9 and 10, but reversed the deficit in 1 and 3 into gains.



Losing time to McL in 4 and gain in 7-8 is more or less remaining the same.
But apart from that, gaining in both low speed AND gaining even more in high speed -- something doesn't make sense. Did RBR have a 'Eureka' moment with their 'setup troubles' ? Because Marko himself is surprised and claims they did something to optimize race pace and are shocked to find the gains in one lap pace. What the hell did they do ? Throw away 10 kg of pig iron from the car ? The track was hotter in Q than SQ, mind you.

Also, if you notice in the trace, VER or NOR, one of them, has inverted their driving style into the slow corners.
1,3,4 corners (I'm guessing it's VER since his car had the change - in SQ he was braking late, sacrificing exit and in Q he was braking early, sacrificing entry) in Q are looking the mirror image of the same in SQ.

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Mclaren was slower on all the straights today.

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Mclaren was slower on all the straights today.

https://i.postimg.cc/zDbntkyW/image.png

The difference is very minimal though. Could be down to corner exits and/or wind here

[chrisc90]

Ghost car comparison of this would be a interesting watch.

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Ghost car comparison of this would be a interesting watch.

https://ibb.co/28JTcvV

What happens after T4 till the end is ridiculous.
0.3s gain in half a lap that lasts barely over a minute, with 'setup changes'.
My gut feel - some massive 'eureka' has happened. Probably this is what RB20 was 'leaving on the table' over the past 3-4 races. Because 3 tenths is the kind of gain that happens when people bring a 'massive upgrade' like McLaren did in Miami. Probably what Norris thinks of this as well. He looked like a deflated baloon in the post-Q interview, was painful to see a cheerful guy look so downbeat.