2025 McLaren F1 Team

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
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ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
Well without the tow that Max got, Oscar would be on pole to be fair.
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mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:06
ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
Well without the tow that Max got, Oscar would be on pole to be fair.
I know, what a terrible lap from Oscar
Just a fan's point of view

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I think McLaren must hope for VERY hot summer because in those temperatures they are untouchable, but when temps drop the others come close and can put the drivers under pressure.

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mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:06
ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
Well without the tow that Max got, Oscar would be on pole to be fair.
I listened to Oscar's interview. He was careful to not admit he felt he could have done better. He started to suggest the lap was not the best but then interrupted himself and simply said it was the best he could have done. Stella clearly said the potential of the car was not fully utilized.
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ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
I dont understand why this readiness will not be there in Oscar, as a professional athelete, the chances will not come everyday, you take it when presented, its all the mental strength and you are not driving a top car as a no 2 with no responsibilities, I think Oscar's mind frame is far ahead of Lando at this moment, if he can grab it and win it then he will make a name for himself, I am looking forward to the race tomorrow, lets see if he has the race craft against Max, a win tomorrow will only be positive for him only, whether he has it or not lets see,

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Felt like a lap where the pressure got to Lando a bit hopefully he can have another good start tomorrow like last week and go from there

I think if Oscar can get ahead of Max I think he will win. I think too he won’t leave Max wondering too much on attempts to overtake. Still needs to tidy up qualifying a little bit I think but I think it has taken a step forward this year, I’d still back I think Lando in quali hear to head a little

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ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05
Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:38
I have the feeling Lando is somehow "broken", he's just sinking under the pressure of having to deliver with the best car.

If Red Bull somehow manage to improve the car, making Max a real threat for the title, McLaren may have soon to choose Oscar as the driver to back.
I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
Oscar is impressing me because he did a huge step since last year, I think he maybe doesn't have as high speed peaks as Lando (at least for now), but he's way more solid, he can win this title doing a Prost.

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AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:12
mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:06
ringo wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:05


I dont think Oscar is ready either to be honest. He should have really dont better in the q3 2nd lap.
Well without the tow that Max got, Oscar would be on pole to be fair.
I listened to Oscar's interview. He was careful to not admit he felt he could have done better. He started to suggest the lap was not the best but then interrupted himself and simply said it was the best he could have done. Stella clearly said the potential of the car was not fully utilized.
Of course there's always more to be done. But the conversation wouldn't be happening if Max wasn't artificially boosted.

Definitely Oscar needs to keep getting faster, but he has the trajectory of a WDC and if he's consistently fast then he'll get the points while others go up and down.
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At some point, the evidence that points to Lando crumbling under pressure will get insurmountable... Unacceptable drive from him today. Verstappen Russell and Leclerc all got the best out of their cars, Piastri was pretty close to doing the same.

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SoulPancake13 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:21
At some point, the evidence that points to Lando crumbling under pressure will get insurmountable... Unacceptable drive from him today. Verstappen Russell and Leclerc all got the best out of their cars, Piastri was pretty close to doing the same.
And what is more worrying it wasn't his last chance but only his first Q3 lap.. Just think of if he did a safe lap taking the 2nd or 3rd lap and after this he had an accident. This case he would have lost almost "nothing"...

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mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:18
AR3-GP wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:12
mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:06


Well without the tow that Max got, Oscar would be on pole to be fair.
I listened to Oscar's interview. He was careful to not admit he felt he could have done better. He started to suggest the lap was not the best but then interrupted himself and simply said it was the best he could have done. Stella clearly said the potential of the car was not fully utilized.
Of course there's always more to be done. But the conversation wouldn't be happening if Max wasn't artificially boosted.

Definitely Oscar needs to keep getting faster, but he has the trajectory of a WDC and if he's consistently fast then he'll get the points while others go up and down.
Overall I still have Lando ahead of Oscar, raw pace I think Lando has min covered where I rate Oscar though is racing he is more willing to take a risk do catch the driver ahead out

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Sergej wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:11
I think McLaren must hope for VERY hot summer because in those temperatures they are untouchable, but when temps drop the others come close and can put the drivers under pressure.
I certainly am! :lol:
It’s become very clear that the heat from the sun is very much Mclarens friend, it was Leclerc in Bahrain and I’ve just heard Max say that the pace of the Mclarens in (both) hot FP3 is ‘on another level’
Just a fan's point of view

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mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:18
michl420 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:15
I don`t understand this. How can a car lost half a second from P3 to Qualifying?
We've been pushing more in the FPs all year.
But that is not the point. The car did 1:27.5 in higher temperatures and then 1:27.9 in qualifying. EDIT: my mistskey that was q1 time

Only explanation is they moved to a stronger race setup, maybe expecting qualy gap to be bigger.

EDIT: my bad, didn't see the times correctly on my phone
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FittingMechanics wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 21:34
mwillems wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:18
michl420 wrote:
19 Apr 2025, 20:15
I don`t understand this. How can a car lost half a second from P3 to Qualifying?
We've been pushing more in the FPs all year.
But that is not the point. The car did 1:27.5 in higher temperatures and then 1:27.9 in qualifying.

Only explanation is they moved to a stronger race setup, maybe expecting qualy gap to be bigger.
Q3 was a 1:27:3 though….
Just a fan's point of view