2015 Austrian Grand Prix - 19-21 June

[f1316]

Well having seen that soft tyre lap from Vettel I'm now starting to think differently, the short lap here means Ferrari are a genuine threat this weekend. Perhaps both Mercs will probably still be able to get pole with their unique qualifying engine settings which I don't think they run now, plus the fact Hamilton was able to beat Vettel before he made that mistake on his 3rd or 4th run on the tyres but it's gonna be the closest we've seen all year.

Short lap would mean that a slower car would be closer - wouldn't make it quicker. If Ferrari is quicker anywhere it has nothing to do with short laps - more likely these kinds of corners, specifically the lack of slow ones, plays to their strengths (or to put it another does not play to what I think is Mercedes biggest advantage, i.e. Slow corner performance).

[ME4ME]

Jup, if it's wet i expect very poor qualifying from Kimi. But if the race is dry, he should be able to drive to the front finishing top 5.

Can't wait for Vettel vs Hamilton in the wet

[SilverArrow10]

Stay wet, stay wet for the whole weekend, driving gods we need this [-o< let battle commence. Charlie let them race!!

[Andres125sx]

Pirelli tyres are crap on dry conditions, but on wet they´re a shame....

It was a very common wet conditions, nothing exceptional, and tires didn´t work at all.


Did FIA ask Pirelli to get tires that dooesn´t work at all on the wet? Or this is a personal contribution?

[Jordan44]

Well having seen that soft tyre lap from Vettel I'm now starting to think differently, the short lap here means Ferrari are a genuine threat this weekend. Perhaps both Mercs will probably still be able to get pole with their unique qualifying engine settings which I don't think they run now, plus the fact Hamilton was able to beat Vettel before he made that mistake on his 3rd or 4th run on the tyres but it's gonna be the closest we've seen all year.

Short lap would mean that a slower car would be closer - wouldn't make it quicker. If Ferrari is quicker anywhere it has nothing to do with short laps - more likely these kinds of corners, specifically the lack of slow ones, plays to their strengths (or to put it another does not play to what I think is Mercedes biggest advantage, i.e. Slow corner performance).

This circuit doesn't have slow corners because it's short. That's what I was assuming.

[Juzh]

Did FIA ask Pirelli to get tires that dooesn´t work at all on the wet? Or this is a personal contribution?

Pretty sure it's the former.
If it rains or simply stays wet for the qualifying I expect hamilton to blitz it. Remember malaysia? Or ever spa last year. Mercedes in the wet is in a league of it's own. Even more so than normal.

[wickedz50]

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

[Jordan44]

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

They'll always have a wet setup on standby for when they need it. In most of the wet qualifying sessions we've seen in the recent era it's been all 3 dry practise sessions and Merc have still gone on to dominate.

Their car has lots of downforce as we know and they're very good at putting heat in the tyres, which is a perfect combination for wet conditions.

[Spoutnik]

Pirelli tyres are crap on dry conditions, but on wet they´re a shame....

It was a very common wet conditions, nothing exceptional, and tires didn´t work at all.


Did FIA ask Pirelli to get tires that dooesn´t work at all on the wet? Or this is a personal contribution?

The Wet tyres didn't realy worked because he is really hard to put at temperature, and he only stay competitive for ~5 laps, suddenly, the team want top put the faster Inter, but those tyres on really wet track are worst to warm up than the Wet. Like u see in this FP3, they need to wait for an usable track, and for that, the driver need to drive. That's a vicious cercle for the qualy, but not for the race
In fact, Hamilton made a nice operation, he save one set of Wet or Inter

[komninosm]

I really miss the countdown timer clock from the old F1 site. Why did they fix what was great and changed it to a lesser thing? Now there's only a clock, but the countdown, hours left, was better.

How can Button get a 25 grid penalty when there's only like 20 cars?
Hmm, he'll serve drive throughs, how many just one?

Hmm very fast laps. 70 seconds.

[Spoutnik]

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

They'll always have a wet setup on standby for when they need it. In most of the wet qualifying sessions we've seen in the recent era it's been all 3 dry practise sessions and Merc have still gone on to dominate.

For the current F1 car, I think the setup don't really change tbh, if the car had a good overall balance. Only brakes, engines map, and aero change

[Juzh]

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

Are the Mercs setup for wet qualifying already in FP3? Something is cooking

They'll always have a wet setup on standby for when they need it. In most of the wet qualifying sessions we've seen in the recent era it's been all 3 dry practise sessions and Merc have still gone on to dominate.

For the current F1 car, I think the setup don't really change tbh, if the car had a good overall balance. Only brakes, engines map, and aero change

Not entirely true. If rain is 100% predicted there is in fact a lot of stuff teams will optimize. Red bull in suzuka last year for example. Was nowhere in qualifying, but was then nearly on the pace of mercs (faster than rosberg even) in the wet race.

[Samraj_official]

Pirelli tyres are crap on dry conditions, but on wet they´re a shame....

It was a very common wet conditions, nothing exceptional, and tires didn´t work at all.


Did FIA ask Pirelli to get tires that dooesn´t work at all on the wet? Or this is a personal contribution?

very low track testing means the tires are crap!!!!!

[Spoutnik]

[/quote]Not entirely true. If rain is 100% predicted there is in fact a lot of stuff teams will optimize. Red bull in suzuka last year for example. Was nowhere in qualifying, but was then nearly on the pace of mercs (faster than rosberg even) in the wet race.[/quote]

Maybe it depend of the nature of the track and of the car, as I said the overall balance is important, but also if you had a crap engine like Red Bull last year you can put everything on extrem set up. Also about Suzuka this track is really demanding on every aspect of the car. In fact, it's quite obvious the Red Bull isn't really fast in qualy last year and on a track like this on dry Williams overperfomed the Red Bull, and that's the opposite on wet condition, we can't really put this on the setup, but more on the nature of the car, but idk I think we need some exterior opinion.

[lotus7]

So with 10 place penalties, Ricciardo and Kvyat will start on Monday
Alonso and Button , 25 place penalties , will start on Tuesday

Thank heavens I am a club racer