Schumi comes back

[Professor]

First, it's a 2007 car, so I do not care what kind of tires are fitted. It was a fitness training exercise, and the times mean nothing except to replicate the physical demands of an F1 car. It is a test of his fitness, a 67 lap workout.

Second, we can argue that the testing rules should have a clause for "force majure" when a driver is injured that allows a replacement driver some laps to familarize himself with the car. But, this should not be allowed when a team chooses to sack a guy (Bourdais). That was a choice. Safety? The superlicense should be denied if the guy has no seat time.

However, these are not the current rules. Perhaps a 2010 revision is needed. De facto: Schu should not be allowed to test an F60 in 2009.

Third, as an adult I am embarassed at the tone of some of these discussions. Nuggets of truth are obviated by rude personal attacks. Shame on you Junior.

[dave34m]

First, it's a 2007 car, so I do not care what kind of tires are fitted. It was a fitness training exercise, and the times mean nothing except to replicate the physical demands of an F1 car. It is a test of his fitness, a 67 lap workout.

Second, we can argue that the testing rules should have a clause for "force majure" when a driver is injured that allows a replacement driver some laps to familarize himself with the car. But, this should not be allowed when a team chooses to sack a guy (Bourdais). That was a choice. Safety? The superlicense should be denied if the guy has no seat time.

However, these are not the current rules. Perhaps a 2010 revision is needed. De facto: Schu should not be allowed to test an F60 in 2009.

Third, as an adult I am embarassed at the tone of some of these discussions. Nuggets of truth are obviated by rude personal attacks. Shame on you Junior.

Well said =D> =D>

[The FOZ]

However, these are not the current rules. Perhaps a 2010 revision is needed. De facto: Schu should not be allowed to test an F60 in 2009.

I don't understand. All the other teams have agreed to allow Schumi to test the F60 for a day. My mind tells me that clearly they have a very different perspective than you and I, but the fact remains, they were the deciders in this, and they've decided to allow him the test. So why bother discussing it now?

Third, as an adult I am embarassed at the tone of some of these discussions. Nuggets of truth are obviated by rude personal attacks. Shame on you Junior.

It's par for the course. Sometimes I shake my head, sometimes I participate, sometimes I walk away. Sometimes I do all three. Fact is, there's a lot of very smart, self-riteous, undiplomatic people here, and that's the best of the lot.

Seriously, though, the tone of the forum is dictated by what the admins and mods allow, and honestly, this is it. Some people make very inflammatory statements quite regularly, and other people react to those statements poorly, and heeeere we go again.

[FGD]

I like how the official F1 site has a backdrop of Schumacher's eyes on their home page.

http://www.formula1.com/

This is good for the F1 show and the FIA priorities. BUSINESS.

Personally, I can't wait!

[mike]

First, it's a 2007 car, so I do not care what kind of tires are fitted. It was a fitness training exercise, and the times mean nothing except to replicate the physical demands of an F1 car. It is a test of his fitness, a 67 lap workout.

Second, we can argue that the testing rules should have a clause for "force majure" when a driver is injured that allows a replacement driver some laps to familarize himself with the car. But, this should not be allowed when a team chooses to sack a guy (Bourdais). That was a choice. Safety? The superlicense should be denied if the guy has no seat time.

However, these are not the current rules. Perhaps a 2010 revision is needed. De facto: Schu should not be allowed to test an F60 in 2009.

Third, as an adult I am embarassed at the tone of some of these discussions. Nuggets of truth are obviated by rude personal attacks. Shame on you Junior.

Well said =D> =D>

+1

[SZ]

With MS's return we have also the return of every cunning trick in the book to get an advantage. An 07 car on GP2 tyres, ha ha, a few hours after the team asks the rest for permission for a real test no less.

Amusing isn't it? There's no other driver that's able to elicit that level of piss taking out of his team... I think it's brilliant. Wrong, but you can't do anything about it, and they thought of it first. Welcome to the good old days.

Clarkson summed it up best after Schumi retired in a Clio 197 review:

"Stirling Moss says the German’s career will always be blighted by the way he parked his car on the circuit at this year’s Monaco Grand Prix...

...The mere fact that Michael actually thought to park his car, and therefore bring out the yellow flags and thus prevent anyone from qualifying faster than him, shows yet again that he’s more intelligent than anyone else out there."

Ha ha ha... so very true (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/drivin ... 624405.ece).

[Motornic]

I don't know if all this amounts to, or violates the idea of the "spirit of the rules," but the practical matter is he is 40-years-old and hasn't been granted a superlicense yet.

Also, after the Massa crash, FOTA v Mosley wrangling, BMW pullout, Renault banning, I think everybody in the paddock is happy to have the guy back in the show. Rules are rules and sport is sport, but at the end of the day its entertainment.

[mx_tifoso]

It's good for Formula One, its good for Ferrari, its good for Michael Schumachers bank account, and it's good for us.

[dave34m]

Sure its good for everyone that he is back, I dont think anyone is saying it isn't, but I dont think he should be given special treatment, I would rather he just play by the rules and then any results he does achieve will be a credit to him.
It wont be easy coming back at age 40 but I believe he can do it, and I dont really think it is unsafe for him to race, he just wants to get up to speed and I think he should use the free practice to do that.

Just my 2 cents worth.

[Rob W]

Never said it violates the rules, but ...it does violate the "spirit of the rules" which was Ferrari's argument against the DDD's. If he got a day of testing in the F60, it would violate the rules, unless of course the teams agreed to it.

I agree... I wonder if the teams aren't all agreeing in the knowledge that it still has to be approved by the FIA... who may say, well if Torro Rosso can drive a new guy who's not had any testing then so can Ferrari.

[siskue2005]

If he got a day of testing in the F60, it would violate the rules, unless of course the teams agreed to it.

so you dont have any problem MS testing if all teams and FIA agree ? right.
so then what is the fuss that you are creating in the thread?
i frankly have no idea why are u so worked up

you dont have any problem with f2007 and gp3 tyres test
you dont have any problem with f60 test IF all teams and FIA agree

so what is wrong here....its the same with everyone
or
are you just finding reason to bash MS, ferrari?

pls clarify

[The FOZ]

Siskue, to be fair, you seem to be defending Schumi about as vigorously as ISLAM is doing something more-or-less opposite...

Back on topic, though,

SCHUMI is back!

[siskue2005]

i was being reasonable to all accusations thrown by him

[flynfrog]

i was being reasonable to all accusations thrown by him

its not worth your time

[Giblet]

But it looks sooooo huuuungryyyyyyyy.......