2016 F1 Spanish Grand Prix

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zeph
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Wow. Both drivers stupid. But I'll call this a racing incident.

And WTF did Sainz come from?!? Bravo!
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matt_b
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RZS10 wrote:one way to defend the lead in WDC
or lose an extra 7 point advantage and 8 wins in a row, he was leading the race.

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It's like the Senna Prost'. Crash'.
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iotar__ wrote:- Awful driving by Hamilton 10 places grid. Sour loser as always.
- This is what you get Mercedes for mollycoddling Hamilton in Japan, Spa, Bahrain and USA.
They both drove awfully.

Hamilton understandably moves to the inside after he has a much better exit. Rosberg logically defends the move. Nothing wrong with that, however, they both went too far with their moves. They were equally stupid
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GrayGreat wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote:Rosberg drove him off the track! Hamilton had the drive out of the corner and Rosberg knew he was coming and crowded him off the track.
You must be joking. Rosberg was entitled to defend. He did not move twice. When he moved, no part of Hamilton's car was alongside Rosberg's. Hamilton got on the grass by himself.
Yes, he has the right to defend, however, cross the whole track defending a car that had a much better exit and would most likely be next to you is over-the-top.
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wesley123 wrote:
GrayGreat wrote:
Just_a_fan wrote:Rosberg drove him off the track! Hamilton had the drive out of the corner and Rosberg knew he was coming and crowded him off the track.
You must be joking. Rosberg was entitled to defend. He did not move twice. When he moved, no part of Hamilton's car was alongside Rosberg's. Hamilton got on the grass by himself.
Yes, he has the right to defend, however, cross the whole track defending a car that had a much better exit and would most likely be next to you is over-the-top.
There is not rule that says you should not defend to someone who is coming fast, or is there? As I said, he is entitled to defend as hard as he likes, given that he moves only in 1 direction which he did. Niki lauda basically saying live that Lewis is at fault (Not the exact wording but it means the same).

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GrayGreat wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
GrayGreat wrote:
You must be joking. Rosberg was entitled to defend. He did not move twice. When he moved, no part of Hamilton's car was alongside Rosberg's. Hamilton got on the grass by himself.
Yes, he has the right to defend, however, cross the whole track defending a car that had a much better exit and would most likely be next to you is over-the-top.
There is not rule that says you should not defend to someone who is coming fast, or is there? As I said, he is entitled to defend as hard as he likes, given that he moves only in 1 direction which he did. Niki lauda basically saying live that Lewis is at fault (Not the exact wording but it means the same).
Sounds like a bit of respect to me to not cross the whole track to defend. The defense was waaaay too agressive
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wesley123 wrote:They were equally stupid
That perfectly summarises it.
On the up side we might have an entertaining race ahead of us. which is not the norm for the Barcelona Track.

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One car width. Nico wasn't enough close to the corner to shut the door and claim racing line. ... Lauda blaming Lewis is a joke.

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Hamilton took too much risk, but once his wheel was alongside Rosberg's rear, Rosberg should've stopped squeezing him onto the grass. That's what the rule says.
But of course he was fully expecting Hamilton to back off, which he didn't.
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wesley123 wrote:
GrayGreat wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
Yes, he has the right to defend, however, cross the whole track defending a car that had a much better exit and would most likely be next to you is over-the-top.
There is not rule that says you should not defend to someone who is coming fast, or is there? As I said, he is entitled to defend as hard as he likes, given that he moves only in 1 direction which he did. Niki lauda basically saying live that Lewis is at fault (Not the exact wording but it means the same).
Sounds like a bit of respect to me to not cross the whole track to defend. The defense was waaaay too agressive
Oh please. Respect? For years everybody kept saying Nico is not aggressive and does not have the spark in him that world champions do. Now when he defended his position, you are saying he was wrong? Stop being biased, and stop defending Hamilton blindly. There was no room on the track, Nico covered the track before any part of the Hamilton's car was alongside. Hamilton should have braked, that's all.

Edit: Offense was multiple times more aggressive than the defense, don't forget that. Rosberg was leading, why should he leave any room when he is not entilted to? (Lauda's words).
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zeph
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Button must have had a pretty good start. Wish they'd show a replay.

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henra wrote:
wesley123 wrote:They were equally stupid
That perfectly summarises it.
On the up side we might have an entertaining race ahead of us. which is not the norm for the Barcelona Track.
Well....Ham new that the driver on the inside will be ahead after the next corner. Ros knew the same and moved right after the corner...the question is if you can force your car to the inside when you are behind.

Now the fun begins =D>
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GrayGreat wrote:
wesley123 wrote:
GrayGreat wrote:
There is not rule that says you should not defend to someone who is coming fast, or is there? As I said, he is entitled to defend as hard as he likes, given that he moves only in 1 direction which he did. Niki lauda basically saying live that Lewis is at fault (Not the exact wording but it means the same).
Sounds like a bit of respect to me to not cross the whole track to defend. The defense was waaaay too agressive
Oh please. Respect? For years everybody kept saying Nico is not aggressive and does not have the spark in him that world champions do. Now when he defended his position, you are saying he was wrong? Stop being biased, and stop defending Hamilton blindly. There was no room on the track, Nico covered the track before any part of the Hamilton's car was alongside. Hamilton should have braked, that's all.

Edit: Offense was multiple times more aggressive than the defense, don't forget that. Rosberg was leading, why should he leave any room when he is not entilted to? (Lauda's words).
That's not all. Lewis didn't defend aggressively when nico passed him before, so why Nico shouldn't do the same as far as he knew he was too slow before the corner ?
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Ant. Davidson said Rosberg wasn't looking in the mirror. Would love to see if that's true.
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