2019 Aston Martin Red Bull Racing - Honda F1 Team

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GPR -A wrote:
27 Jun 2019, 03:17
godlameroso wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 19:17
GPR -A wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 19:11
How is this ~.6?
By fourth lap, Max was 2 seconds behind Charles, which is just enough gap to ensure the tyres aren't hurt with the wake of leading car.

https://i.imgur.com/HhTGOUF.png
And the gap was around .6 seconds...

.8 seconds if you compare what you highlighted.
So, a Mercedes cruising ahead and a Red Bull chasing a Ferrari and also being chased by another Ferrari, is relevant for lap time comparison? Unless, you are only mathematically focused on lap times.
You highlighted those laps and claimed he was in clean air. He wasn't gaining on either car so not sure about your point. Hamilton wasn't cruising as he had Bottas behind him.
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It means that the key vote to get seven in favour could come down to Racing Point which, while being a customer of Mercedes, has faced its own headaches getting on top of the tyres for qualifying.
Should the meeting conclude that seven teams are in favour, then it is understood that Pirelli has said it could be ready to bring the new specification tyres to the Belgian Grand Prix.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/team ... n/4483178/
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loner wrote:
27 Jun 2019, 16:22
It means that the key vote to get seven in favour could come down to Racing Point which, while being a customer of Mercedes, has faced its own headaches getting on top of the tyres for qualifying.
Should the meeting conclude that seven teams are in favour, then it is understood that Pirelli has said it could be ready to bring the new specification tyres to the Belgian Grand Prix.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/team ... n/4483178/
It is described slightly differently on the AMuS site.

Will Pirelli build new tires in 2019?

Now ten team bosses, Pirelli and representatives of the FIA want to solve the Gordian knot
on Friday morning at 9 o'clock in the paddock of Spielberg.
If a majority is found, however, Pirelli could react only conditionally. More than a return to the thicker tread,
as used in 2018, is not in it.

Tire builders can not change the whole design of their products overnight. So it would stay with a stiffer carcass.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/for ... nderungen/
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Bill wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 17:41
Mercedes found 4tenth on chassis in Barcelona I still waiting for Rbr to bring that kind of performance.their over reliance on newey is hurting them merc has significantly more aero people than them even though their budgets are similar. If you look at their car is just the same as last year.high rake were great if you have frick to do tricky things with suspension
I think you do now have to question whether that high rake concept is the right direction, but Newey has such a reputation in the paddock that everyone bar Mercedes has copied it, albeit, they don't understand what they want to get out of it as Newey does.

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Ticktum dropped from Red Bull junior programme

Dan Ticktum has reportedly been dropped from the Red Bull junior programme after two years with the energy drink squad.

Earlier this week, it was understood that Ticktum had lost his drive in the Super Formula category after just three races in 2019, which has amassed one point scoring position.

Now, Red Bull advisor Dr Helmut Marko has confirmed to Speedweek in Austria that the Briton "is no longer part of our programme".

Ticktum tested for Red Bull only last month, taking part in the in-season test at the Circuit de Catalunya following on from his test in Bahrain with the team.

The 20-year-old was in the running for a full-time Formula 1 seat in 2019, but a lack of super license points prevented him from taking a seat at Toro Rosso, which left it to bring back Daniil Kvyat and bring in Alexander Albon.

Ticktum looked to be in a strong position to win the FIA Formula 3 championship last year before a second half of the season surge from Mick Schumacher saw him claim the title.

Marko also added that there are no more planned Formula 2 outings for Red Bull junior Patricio O'Ward, who makes his debut in the category this weekend with MP Motorsport.
https://www.gptoday.net/en/news/f1/2487 ... -programme

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Ticktum dropped from Red Bull junior programme
Considering his decline in results, coupled with his public outbursts last year, I'm not surprised.

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who says there is no such thing as a bad press? I think he would prove otherwise.
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They probably analysed the data from the test, had a look at his recent results (and comments!) and then went into full "noooope" mode. Well deserved, i guess?!

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I didn’t catch all of FP2. Max didn’t seem to run the second half? Everything ok there?

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shingles wrote:
28 Jun 2019, 17:43
I didn’t catch all of FP2. Max didn’t seem to run the second half? Everything ok there?
He had a big crash in last turn

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Tanabe: The windy conditions during the afternoon session caught out several drivers, including Max who crashed, rear end, into the barriers. Fortunately, today he was running a “Friday only” PU and it was therefore always the plan to change it to his Spec 3 unit for the rest of the weekend. The one in the car at the time of the crash will now be sent back to Sakura to be thoroughly checked. This weekend we are running all four of our cars with the Spec 3 PU, as Albon joins the other three drivers in using it. Apart from Max’s accident, the day went smoothly, as we progressed with our usual work of tuning the PU settings to suit this track, for short and long runs.
https://en.hondaracingf1.com/races/2019 ... b=practice

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Q: Paul, can we start by talking about this year’s RB15. What were your expectations coming into the 2019 season and has the car met them?
Paul Monaghan: I suppose form a team point of view, no we’re not walking off into the distance and winning every race, so there’s an element of frustration rather than disappointment. Don’t forget, we were the ones that changed power unit and then picked up the bodywork changes, so we probably took more on in the winter than some of the others. These cars don’t stand still. They’re prototypes, aren’t they? So every race it’s changing, sometimes by larger amounts, other times by smaller amounts. Our friends at Honda are upgrading as and when they can. So, as a package we’re trying to move forward. The target is clear and yeah, it’s improving all the time and the rate of improvement relative to our opposition that will see whether we can catch them?
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... xUCUr.html

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etusch wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 12:54
_cerber1 wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 10:25
They had a year because TR already did it. In addition, Horner and Marko said that the engine fit perfectly into the chassis.
Some are talking about 9 cm wheelbase and affects of this on aero performance. So different pu with different layout, cog make it big difference. Honda pu location is different from Renault (if I don't think wrong Honda pu must be closer to rear than Renault) and only this can cause of need of redo everything on the car base
When McLaren did the change - even later in seasons. Nobody give them credit for little time they had. Everybody lough at them.

With one year with sister team I don't see why we should try to find excuses for RB problems.

They made bold predictions (Honda, Marko, Horner) and didn't deliver.

So we should expect what we all expected from Bulier and co. - heads should roll.

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ivanlesk wrote:
etusch wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 12:54
_cerber1 wrote:
26 Jun 2019, 10:25
They had a year because TR already did it. In addition, Horner and Marko said that the engine fit perfectly into the chassis.
Some are talking about 9 cm wheelbase and affects of this on aero performance. So different pu with different layout, cog make it big difference. Honda pu location is different from Renault (if I don't think wrong Honda pu must be closer to rear than Renault) and only this can cause of need of redo everything on the car base
When McLaren did the change - even later in seasons. Nobody give them credit for little time they had. Everybody lough at them.

With one year with sister team I don't see why we should try to find excuses for RB problems.

They made bold predictions (Honda, Marko, Horner) and didn't deliver.

So we should expect what we all expected from Bulier and co. - heads should roll.
The in fact made NO bold predictions. It was the forums and media that was guessing how many races they would win. In fact they kept saying this year is for building towards 2020. So let’s not sit here and act like somehow anyone is making any excuses for them. They (RBR and Honda) haven’t. They kept saying they need to improve.

Head should roll after ONE year? Give me a break. Stop this crap with sister team. Sure they might learn some things but it isn’t a 1:1 translation, not even close.

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Have you seen Helmut comments preseason?
That was not media - that was RB.

Crap with sister team? Easiest is to put head in sand....