2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Manoah2u
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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djones wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 00:38
Deserved.

But such as shame for the race as the Ferrari's will just control the pace now and nobody will be able to pass them.
BS.

His lap being scrapped, that would have been correct.
Getting a three-place grid penalty is just bull and once again FIARRARI serving the reds to keep them in some form of spectacle. What a farce.

Let it be clear that Max NOT going off his throttle was absolutely stupid. He should have went off throttle whatever the case would have been, and he would have had P1 and a huge chance for the win.
But then to also be as completely stupid to admit on telly and awaken a bunch of sleeping dogs, whether that was the FIA or probably Ferrari pushing the FIA to go for a look, was absolutely bonkers.
Should've kept his mouth shut.

That said, not deserved to get a grid penalty.

Again, let's just take last race for example. Vettel has a FALSE START, gets NO PUNISHMENT.
LeClerc takes out Verstappen which fully falls under 'CAUSING A COLLISION' and NO ACTION NECCESARY,
and finally the post-race 'penalty' has little to no effect.

Scratching that time set in that lap, yeah, that would have been fair.
But getting him a grid penalty so he now gets to start P4? that's just BS.
especially since the fact is he deserved that P1 to the fullest and set it when there was no issue.

that said, Bottas once again shows he runs out of talent when he needs it.
Dude really got to be delusional to think he has a shot for the WDC.
He is and always will be a number 2.

Anyway, let's hope Verstappen will be so wise to not go outside on Leclerc and get taken out again.
Better to bang wheels at the first corner and see Leclerc get a little of his own. Yes, i've actually said that, downvote me if you like. Leclerc is a great driver but needs to come back to the ground. But let's not underestimate Vettel here. Hamilton has got the WDC in the bag just by finishing in the top 5 or so, so no need to go into dangerous territory. Vettel, Leclerc and Verstappen have something to prove so those are the 3 most dangerous.

But yes, there is offcourse the very present possibility of Vettel and Leclerc coming together. It would guarantee Hamilton the WDC without any doubt.
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Was waiting for "FIArrari" or "Ferrari International Assitance" but twitter brainlets beat you to it... the penalty is consistent with previous incidents and it's a penalty for something safety related, irregardless of his performance in quali, it's not like he cut a corner or went wide somewhere (which would result in the lap being scrapped)

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qatmix
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Do you understand the point of the penalty? Max was reckless and put peoples lives at risk.

F1 is about speed, skill and substance. It’s what defines a truly great racer. Showing contempt for the safety of others is not a good thing. I hope Max learns from this, to be honest as a fan of him I feel ashamed of his attitude in the press conference. I just have faith he will mature into the real deal at some point.

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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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some warm milk will be a good cure.
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TAG
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It's so nice not to have a dog in the controversy du jour. Let's see what happens on Sunday.
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ispano6
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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to whom it may concern...

foxmulder_ms
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Manoah2u wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 00:57
djones wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 00:38
Deserved.

But such as shame for the race as the Ferrari's will just control the pace now and nobody will be able to pass them.
BS.

His lap being scrapped, that would have been correct.
Getting a three-place grid penalty is just bull and once again FIARRARI serving the reds to keep them in some form of spectacle. What a farce.

Let it be clear that Max NOT going off his throttle was absolutely stupid. He should have went off throttle whatever the case would have been, and he would have had P1 and a huge chance for the win.
But then to also be as completely stupid to admit on telly and awaken a bunch of sleeping dogs, whether that was the FIA or probably Ferrari pushing the FIA to go for a look, was absolutely bonkers.
Should've kept his mouth shut.

That said, not deserved to get a grid penalty.

Again, let's just take last race for example. Vettel has a FALSE START, gets NO PUNISHMENT.
LeClerc takes out Verstappen which fully falls under 'CAUSING A COLLISION' and NO ACTION NECCESARY,
and finally the post-race 'penalty' has little to no effect.

Scratching that time set in that lap, yeah, that would have been fair.
But getting him a grid penalty so he now gets to start P4? that's just BS.
especially since the fact is he deserved that P1 to the fullest and set it when there was no issue.

that said, Bottas once again shows he runs out of talent when he needs it.
Dude really got to be delusional to think he has a shot for the WDC.
He is and always will be a number 2.

Anyway, let's hope Verstappen will be so wise to not go outside on Leclerc and get taken out again.
Better to bang wheels at the first corner and see Leclerc get a little of his own. Yes, i've actually said that, downvote me if you like. Leclerc is a great driver but needs to come back to the ground. But let's not underestimate Vettel here. Hamilton has got the WDC in the bag just by finishing in the top 5 or so, so no need to go into dangerous territory. Vettel, Leclerc and Verstappen have something to prove so those are the 3 most dangerous.

But yes, there is offcourse the very present possibility of Vettel and Leclerc coming together. It would guarantee Hamilton the WDC without any doubt.

What BS?? Did you ever watch F1? It is actually a lenient penalty. It should have been 5 places even 10. You know what is funny: FIA only penalized him because he did not stop talking. LOL! 111% deserved :D

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TAG wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 01:15
It's so nice not to have a dog in the controversy du jour. Let's see what happens on Sunday.
Max could have killed Valterri if he had lost control of his RedBull in that corner. Flooring it past the yellow is a serious offence and he should have gotten a five place grid drop minimum. He has much to learn young Max.
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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I understand the frustration of Max and RBR fans. They're hungry for wins and on a rare occasion their favourite driver or team gets pole, it's being taken away from them. But it shouldn't be discussed whether the penalty was deserved or not. A little snap in that particular spot and Max crashes into Bottas. Think of what could have happened then.
Your frustration shouldn't make you be ignorant.

The funny thing is that the FIA initially wasn't going to investigate the case (which would have gone hand in hand with their recent poor form), but changed mind after seeing Verstappen's arrogant and ignorant behaviour.

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El Scorchio
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Glad they’ve eventually done the right thing.

Hopefully this is a lesson for Max but somehow I doubt it. I’m willing to bet all that’s going to happen now is he will try a reckless move tomorrow on the first lap, and woe betide and a damaged car for anyone who dares get in his way...

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Oehrly
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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Absolutely the right decision. And I'm sort of a Verstappen fan. But that penalty was necessary.

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Leclerc is gonna make a false start crash into verstappen and get away with it vettel will win because the fia loves him

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 01:58
TAG wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 01:15
It's so nice not to have a dog in the controversy du jour. Let's see what happens on Sunday.
Max could have killed Valterri if he had lost control of his RedBull in that corner. Flooring it past the yellow is a serious offence and he should have gotten a five place grid drop minimum. He has much to learn young Max.
Ideally, he should have got a race ban. It's a matter of a fellow driver's life which he did not respect. FIA should not wait for a life to be affected due one individual's stupidity. They have to set strong precedence.

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Re: 2019 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, 25-27 October

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Leclerc is the huge winner out of this. He could easily have been 3rd or possibly 4th with his poor last lap

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GPR -A wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 04:13
PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 01:58
TAG wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 01:15
It's so nice not to have a dog in the controversy du jour. Let's see what happens on Sunday.
Max could have killed Valterri if he had lost control of his RedBull in that corner. Flooring it past the yellow is a serious offence and he should have gotten a five place grid drop minimum. He has much to learn young Max.
Ideally, he should have got a race ban. It's a matter of a fellow driver's life which he did not respect. FIA should not wait for a life to be affected due one individual's stupidity. They have to set strong precedence.
Yeah well, why not hang the guy .. somewhere on a square ?
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