Silly Season 2020/2021 (starting with silliness in 2019)

[Moore77]

Considering that RB16 has been extremely twitchy car, expecting RB17 to be any better would asking for too much. Especially, when cars have a setback with floor changes for 2021. With 2022 coming in with cost cutting, 2021 is going to be full on development for 2022 car, which means, RB17 isn't going to get a great deal of development time. If RB17 comes with same issues then I don't see how Perez can do better than Gasly and Albon did (if he is driving) . He isn't the best qualifier either and neither is Red Bull is a second-driver friendly or a patient team either. Time would tell.

[holeindalip]

Considering that RB16 has been extremely twitchy car, expecting RB17 to be any better would asking for too much. Especially, when cars have a setback with floor changes for 2021. With 2022 coming in with cost cutting, 2021 is going to be full on development for 2022 car, which means, RB17 isn't going to get a great deal of development time. If RB17 comes with same issues then I don't see how Perez can do better than Gasly and Albon did (if he is driving) . He isn't the best qualifier either and neither is Red Bull is a second-driver friendly or a patient team either. Time would tell.

That’s what I’ve been saying about mercedes stopping work on the 20’ car after the 4th race and working on 2021, they’ll start with a big advantage again and in turn switch development to ‘22 ASAP

[El Scorchio]

Not a bad idea, but then they are just constantly putting Perez at a disadvantage to his own team mate and every other driver on the grid so what's the point? This is what I mean about Red Bull messing around with drivers and not making clear/firm/fair decisions. You'll never get the best out of anyone if you treat them like that. Just s*** or get off the pot.

Russell has to make space for Nissany to drive in FP1 too. It's usual.

Well, I wouldn't say it's 'usual' but yes, very true! It's something the smaller non contending teams do occasionally for money which Red Bull clearly don't need to and absolutely shouldn't do if they are really serious about any title aspirations. They need to wring the absolute maximum out of that number 2 car.

[JordanMugen]

If RB17 comes with same issues then I don't see how Perez can do better than Gasly and Albon did (if he is driving)

Surely a seasoned top driver like Perez knows how to handle a twitchy car without issue, which is the difference that RBR are looking for?

[adrianjordan]

If RB17 comes with same issues then I don't see how Perez can do better than Gasly and Albon did (if he is driving)

Surely a seasoned top driver like Perez knows how to handle a twitchy car without issue, which is the difference that RBR are looking for?

Like Vettel does you mean?

[adrianjordan]

Not a bad idea, but then they are just constantly putting Perez at a disadvantage to his own team mate and every other driver on the grid so what's the point? This is what I mean about Red Bull messing around with drivers and not making clear/firm/fair decisions. You'll never get the best out of anyone if you treat them like that. Just s*** or get off the pot.

Russell has to make space for Nissany to drive in FP1 too. It's usual.

I can't help but wonder whether in 2021 it might be Russell taking over a certain Mercedes for a few FP1 sessions.....

[Big Tea]

If RB17 comes with same issues then I don't see how Perez can do better than Gasly and Albon did (if he is driving)

Surely a seasoned top driver like Perez knows how to handle a twitchy car without issue, which is the difference that RBR are looking for?

Have we found sport of the long lonely off season ? At what stage, if Perez does not perform does Albon get his seat back?

As a far more experienced driver, in not only years, but also cars, if Perez can not get with in a couple tenths of max within what time span can we say the problem was not Albon (or Gasly) it was the car?
The second question is then do they swap Albon back into the car or let it run?

Easier to leave Perez there, but Red Bull have the added distraction of Albon being one of 'their' drivers and seemingly politically connected.

[Racer X]

It's quite possible that RedBull will be impatient with Perez the same way they were with Gasly. So he will have to come out and quickly adapt to the RedBull. They will surely do a lot of work with him during the off season in their simulator to bring him up to speed.

His days in McLaren could be a preview of what might happen at RedBull we might see a team that expects him to be quick immediately and axe him if hes not. I think there will be zero tolerance for failure for Perez. Because he's not from their academy specially when you keep in mind that RedBull doesn't have patience even for the driver's from their academy. So definitely Perez will have to be fast quickly.


But I'm repeating myself here.... I'm pretty sure RedBull Will do and probably always does make sure that their incoming driver's have a lot *of* prep time in the off season. Sergio's experience with McLaren will help him adapt to the faster pace of a top team.


If he gets signed....

[holeindalip]

It's quite possible that RedBull will be impatient with Perez the same way they were with Gasly. So he will have to come out and quickly adapt to the RedBull. They will surely do a lot of work with him during the off season in their simulator to bring him up to speed.

His days in McLaren could be a preview of what might happen at RedBull we might see a team that expects him to be quick immediately and axe him if hes not. I think there will be zero tolerance for failure for Perez. Because he's not from their academy specially when you keep in mind that RedBull doesn't have patience even for the driver's from their academy. So definitely Perez will have to be fast quickly.


But I'm repeating myself here.... I'm pretty sure RedBull Will do and probably always does make sure that their incoming driver's have a lot *of* prep time in the off season. Sergio's experience with McLaren will help him adapt to the faster pace of a top team.


If he gets signed....

Why do you think Perez wasn’t quick at mclaren, he had the measure of button in total race pace.....

[Moore77]

It's quite possible that RedBull will be impatient with Perez the same way they were with Gasly. So he will have to come out and quickly adapt to the RedBull. They will surely do a lot of work with him during the off season in their simulator to bring him up to speed.

His days in McLaren could be a preview of what might happen at RedBull we might see a team that expects him to be quick immediately and axe him if hes not. I think there will be zero tolerance for failure for Perez. Because he's not from their academy specially when you keep in mind that RedBull doesn't have patience even for the driver's from their academy. So definitely Perez will have to be fast quickly.


But I'm repeating myself here.... I'm pretty sure RedBull Will do and probably always does make sure that their incoming driver's have a lot *of* prep time in the off season. Sergio's experience with McLaren will help him adapt to the faster pace of a top team.


If he gets signed....

Why do you think Perez wasn’t quick at mclaren, he had the measure of button in total race pace.....

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[NathanOlder]

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Perez scored podiums every year that he was team mates with Nico.
Perez had the measure of Button in the late season.
why is 2017 missed out ?
same for 2019 and now 2020?

[raymondu999]

Surely a seasoned top driver like Perez knows how to handle a twitchy car without issue, which is the difference that RBR are looking for?

I don’t think it’s an experience thing. I think it can be learnt, or it could be instinctive even for some. But I don’t think experience automatically helps in this regard

[NathanOlder]

Surely a seasoned top driver like Perez knows how to handle a twitchy car without issue, which is the difference that RBR are looking for?

I don’t think it’s an experience thing. I think it can be learnt, or it could be instinctive even for some. But I don’t think experience automatically helps in this regard

I agree. Charles has a handle on it, he has no experience when comparing him to Seb.

[Racer X]

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Perez scored podiums every year that he was team mates with Nico.
Perez had the measure of Button in the late season.
why is 2017 missed out ?
same for 2019 and now 2020?

His rookie and 2nd seasons are missing as well people rate Albon and other driver's so highly who are driving McLaren's and Ferraris RedBulls but Sergio Perez in a Sauber almost won a race in his second season and scored points on his debut race.

Apparently that's a big deal and something these other drivers haven't been able to do unless they got mad mad lucky.

I'm sorry but comparing Albon or even George and Gasly also* Norris and Charles to Perez in his first two seasons. Perez has podiums and a near victory while these driver's in better cars don't have that. In a Sauber keep in mind that Perez did this in a Sauber it's the equivalent of getting a podium i suppose in an Alfa Romeo... haha (edit)

I sometimes wonder why is Perez so underrated. What makes Perez different that he's had to do more then other driver's to be held as an equal to a mediocre driver like Hulkenberg.

When if you compare the first two seasons of the driver's currently on the grid only Hamilton and Sebastian had better first two seasons.
Edit* Max also had a better first two years then Perez**** EDIT***
CHARLES won 2 races as well.

But they did so driving a RedBull and a McLaren.

Why is Perez so underrated and why is Hulkenberg so overated. If George had 3 podiums and a near race win or Lando or Charles in their first 2 seasons. People would not for a moment question that they could be future world champions.

If Perez gets that seat at RedBull.... Hamilton won't have an easy time getting that Championship.

It could be a 3 way fight.

My point is Perez is extremely talented and very very underated...