2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

For ease of use, there is one thread per grand prix where you can discuss everything during that specific GP weekend. You can find these threads here.
User avatar
rssh
1
Joined: 07 Jul 2012, 13:51

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Lets not talk about DNF's in this thread it can be continued in the RB team thread. Also a new point didn't Vettel gift Webber 2011 Brazilian GP inspite of having GB trouble , he was faster .

User avatar
Poleman
1
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 19:25

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Yes indeed i should say more like mechanical failures/issues and not DNF's,my bad.

lillschumi
lillschumi
1
Joined: 07 May 2011, 13:46

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

I think Merc is to over-cautious with pace on hard tires. Seb clearly showed that the hard tires had more pace in them. Just before pitting Merc easily increased pace.

I actually think these Pirelli tire is BS, it´s a farce seing all driver "cruise" for 40 laps, no one dares to push more which makes everyone over-cautious. If the safety car hadn´t come (or all did the same pit option under SC) the race would have been so booring, it would have been cruise for 60 laps.

User avatar
Traction
0
Joined: 14 Jun 2011, 11:50
Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Vettel...flawless ..again...nothing more , nothing less...
Generally I don't care about what people say. I have to be clear with myself. When everything goes well, people celebrate you, when you make mistakes people criticize you.
Sebastian Vettel

User avatar
rssh
1
Joined: 07 Jul 2012, 13:51

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Also what do you think about the stupid Safety car Scene . Wasn't RIC's car cleared within 2 laps? Overtaking lapped car is seriously stupid they should move over to the end of the grid and save the extra 2-3 precious race laps.

User avatar
Poleman
1
Joined: 02 Feb 2010, 19:25

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

rssh wrote:Also what do you think about the stupid Safety car Scene . Wasn't RIC's car cleared within 2 laps? Overtaking lapped car is seriously stupid they should move over to the end of the grid and save the extra 2-3 precious race laps.
Exactly...I think that the RIC's car even retrieved the very same lap the SC came out...That think was annoying to watch...This overtaking rule is total BS

krisfx
krisfx
14
Joined: 04 Jan 2012, 23:07

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Poleman wrote:
rssh wrote:Also what do you think about the stupid Safety car Scene . Wasn't RIC's car cleared within 2 laps? Overtaking lapped car is seriously stupid they should move over to the end of the grid and save the extra 2-3 precious race laps.
Exactly...I think that the RIC's car even retrieved the very same lap the SC came out...That think was annoying to watch...This overtaking rule is total BS
It wouldn't be so bad if the Marussia's were actually fighting with anyone, but right now even Caterham were nearly a lap up on them so they aren't even worth letting by.

komninosm
komninosm
0
Joined: 05 Apr 2009, 18:41
Location: Macedonia

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Shrieker wrote:
komninosm wrote: I want to see video of Hamilton pushed outside the track by Massa and getting told to give position (probably there is audio of team FIARARI complaining we didn't get to hear) and also why Hulk(?) got one too (they didn't show this even once).
I think Hamilton being told to give back position wasn't entirely fair because he got pushed wide by Massa. Massa should've provided space for Hamilton to live as per the rules. Hamilton was squeezed out of track, i don't quite see why he has to slow and give up his inside line advantage for the next corner just because he went outside the track limits. He went there because he was squeezed wide in the first place.

Regarding Nico (Hulk) and Perez, I think it was more clear cut. Perez dived to the inside, and while both drivers were struggling for grip (and being respectful to each other) there was the slightest of contacts which pushed Nico wide and out of the track. Hamilton vs. Massa is an open argument but Hulk was hard done, he shouldn't have been asked to give the place back since it was the contact that pushed him out of the track.
OMG :shock:
They gave Hulk an order to give up the place for THAT!?
I saw that and I was almost expecting investigation for causing a collision by Perez. Not to penalize Hulk at all...
Wow, no wonder they didn't show us why. I thought it was two unrelated incidents.
The Hamilton one was poor judgement too and it could have changed Hamilton's race a bit. We've seen in other cases drivers got penalties for pushing others off track (Vettel-Alonso comes to mind). What gives FIA?
Last edited by komninosm on 22 Sep 2013, 18:05, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
ringo
230
Joined: 29 Mar 2009, 10:57

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

lillschumi wrote:I think Merc is to over-cautious with pace on hard tires. Seb clearly showed that the hard tires had more pace in them. Just before pitting Merc easily increased pace.

I actually think these Pirelli tire is BS, it´s a farce seing all driver "cruise" for 40 laps, no one dares to push more which makes everyone over-cautious. If the safety car hadn´t come (or all did the same pit option under SC) the race would have been so booring, it would have been cruise for 60 laps.
If i remember, this was the same thing last year. Singapore is a track you cruise until something happens then you use the pace in the tyres. No one wants to push mid stint. They all keep their cards to their chest until something happens like a safety car or a midlfielder pits. It's a game of who blinks first. We can thank pirellis for that.
This race would have done well with those indestructible bridgestones.
For Sure!!

LionKing
LionKing
4
Joined: 26 Jun 2010, 22:03

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

From 2010 to 2013 so far:

Vettel: 6 mechanical DNFs (5 of them from lead, he lost another 2 wins due to mechanical problems but still finished in points)
Mark: 2 mechanical DNFs

User avatar
Juzh
161
Joined: 06 Oct 2012, 08:45

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

And actually vettel is on a 64 races non-driver induced dnf streak. Since turkey 2010. Which is miles better than anyone currently on the grid.

radosav
radosav
23
Joined: 05 Feb 2012, 20:46

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

LionKing wrote:From 2010 to 2013 so far:

Vettel: 6 mechanical DNFs (5 of them from lead, he lost another 2 wins due to mechanical problems but still finished in points)
Mark: 2 mechanical DNFs
what about webbers starts from first row and clutch problems? staring from first row and ending sixth, seventh or eight after first corner is same as mechanical failure.

LionKing
LionKing
4
Joined: 26 Jun 2010, 22:03

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

radosav wrote:
LionKing wrote:From 2010 to 2013 so far:

Vettel: 6 mechanical DNFs (5 of them from lead, he lost another 2 wins due to mechanical problems but still finished in points)
Mark: 2 mechanical DNFs
what about webbers starts from first row and clutch problems? staring from first row and ending sixth, seventh or eight after first corner is same as mechanical failure.
Mark has always been a bad starter notoriously all his career. Once he qualified 2nd and he was 15th into first corner....

User avatar
Traction
0
Joined: 14 Jun 2011, 11:50
Location: Cape Town, South Africa

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

LionKing wrote:
radosav wrote:
LionKing wrote:From 2010 to 2013 so far:

Vettel: 6 mechanical DNFs (5 of them from lead, he lost another 2 wins due to mechanical problems but still finished in points)
Mark: 2 mechanical DNFs
what about webbers starts from first row and clutch problems? staring from first row and ending sixth, seventh or eight after first corner is same as mechanical failure.
Mark has always been a bad starter notoriously all his career. Once he qualified 2nd and he was 15th into first corner....
:lol:
Generally I don't care about what people say. I have to be clear with myself. When everything goes well, people celebrate you, when you make mistakes people criticize you.
Sebastian Vettel

User avatar
Juzh
161
Joined: 06 Oct 2012, 08:45

Re: 2013 Singapore GP - Marina Bay

Post

Here you go.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjaAwwwQVwg[/youtube]