2019 Williams F1 Team - Mercedes

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FIA stamps down on Williams for illegal car

https://www.f1supernews.com/2019/03/05/ ... legal-car/


Is this true?

DrDejan
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Marco Alves wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 19:38
FIA stamps down on Williams for illegal car

https://www.f1supernews.com/2019/03/05/ ... legal-car/


Is this true?
Scarbs also questioned the legality of the front suspension in one of his latest videos. Also, he talked about the mirrors.
There may be a question from rivals for clarification, and FIA will issue a technical directive about it.
Nothing of championship consequence right now, but might further delay Williams development.

munudeges
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Zynerji wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 06:22
Williams was 2 days late with its new car and gets this kind of attention, but Racing Point runs a modified 2018 car both weeks of the test proving the new car didn't even exist as a product, and it's no big deal...

Sometimes I wonder why the venom is so caustic here.
That's called planning.

munudeges
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Lotus102 wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 09:50
What has happened, has happened. Any extrapolation of that is, however, subjective. All the many predictions that Williams would collapse last year, not replace Martini, sack Paddy Lowe or whatever did not turn out to be true (and were never likely, however bad the on-track performance was)....
Best of luck with holding on to those crumbs of comfort. No team in Formula 1 can continue to exist like this, and the list of teams who have bowed out of the sport in their position is as long as your arm.

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munudeges wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 12:47
Lotus102 wrote:
04 Mar 2019, 09:50
What has happened, has happened. Any extrapolation of that is, however, subjective. All the many predictions that Williams would collapse last year, not replace Martini, sack Paddy Lowe or whatever did not turn out to be true (and were never likely, however bad the on-track performance was)....
Best of luck with holding on to those crumbs of comfort. No team in Formula 1 can continue to exist like this, and the list of teams who have bowed out of the sport in their position is as long as your arm.
Please list them and state the point of comparison. I honestly can’t think of any.

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Marco Alves wrote:
05 Mar 2019, 19:38
FIA stamps down on Williams for illegal car

https://www.f1supernews.com/2019/03/05/ ... legal-car/


Is this true?
My understanding is that there are exaggerations and misinterpretations in here. The ‘Kubica could become technical director’ is nonsense, just based on a quote that his technical understanding was strong enough that he had the potential to do that job. (Something not too dissimilar was said about Sergey Sirotkin, who is after all a qualified engineer).

The comment that the mirrors have already been removed is incorrect, that site appears to have seen a photograph of the FW41 show car and leaped to the conclusion that it was the new car with different mirrors. The most authoritative view on the mirrors seems to be that Williams has been asked to make changes before Melbourne. I don’t think this means chucking out the whole concept, but making some adjustments to ensure that the portion that reflects cleanly is larger. The point about it being a flow conditioner is immaterial, mirrors are exempt from regulations that would prevent such a device in that area.

Again, I don’t think the entire suspension concept is under question, just some small elements that are potentially arranged a little too much for aerodynamic benefit rather than function.

If WR have to change everything that’s under question, it will probably have a minor effect on performance, and will be an annoyance to a team that’s already up against it with manufacturing parts. But it’s not the total disaster that this piece is claiming.

This seems to be the problem with Williams. These little issues that several teams face are scrutinised far more, and more significance placed on them

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^Exactly! I haven't seen reliable reporting on the Williams' pieces being illegal other than the few mentions above. I doubt there's any huge investigation going on or it would have been in the reputable news or seen in new technical directives. Maybe some minor changes but we'll see as no mentions of those either.

Manoah2u
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kptaylor wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 17:38
^Exactly! I haven't seen reliable reporting on the Williams' pieces being illegal other than the few mentions above. I doubt there's any huge investigation going on or it would have been in the reputable news or seen in new technical directives. Maybe some minor changes but we'll see as no mentions of those either.
ignoring everything sure, williams is fine and is gonna win races this year with the most phenomenal driver pairing ever.

in reality, taking blindfolds off, the team is in shambles and the reports just keep coming in on negatives for the team and car. people seem to forget just days ago it was mentioned the williams mirrors are illegal too. never happened according to those blindfolded.

the way this is going, the team won't just not make abu dhabi, they're not gonna make australia next week either.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

miguelalvesreis
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Manoah2u wrote:
kptaylor wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 17:38
^Exactly! I haven't seen reliable reporting on the Williams' pieces being illegal other than the few mentions above. I doubt there's any huge investigation going on or it would have been in the reputable news or seen in new technical directives. Maybe some minor changes but we'll see as no mentions of those either.
ignoring everything sure, williams is fine and is gonna win races this year with the most phenomenal driver pairing ever.

in reality, taking blindfolds off, the team is in shambles and the reports just keep coming in on negatives for the team and car. people seem to forget just days ago it was mentioned the williams mirrors are illegal too. never happened according to those blindfolded.

the way this is going, the team won't just not make abu dhabi, they're not gonna make australia next week either.
"ignoring everything sure, williams is fine and is gonna win races this year with the most phenomenal driver pairing ever."

LOL

A bit to stretchy don't you think. Nobody is telling such!

But as that ain't foreseeable also the doom factoring is also a bit apocalyptic!

Williams have enough problems, they do not need to have some added

Let's let them work and expect for the better, that is expect that they can have a play on the midfield runners

We already know that some have a dark vision about Williams future, point noted

No need to spam the thread with it all the time

Cheers

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Manoah2u wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 18:48
kptaylor wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 17:38
^Exactly! I haven't seen reliable reporting on the Williams' pieces being illegal other than the few mentions above. I doubt there's any huge investigation going on or it would have been in the reputable news or seen in new technical directives. Maybe some minor changes but we'll see as no mentions of those either.
ignoring everything sure, williams is fine and is gonna win races this year with the most phenomenal driver pairing ever.

in reality, taking blindfolds off, the team is in shambles and the reports just keep coming in on negatives for the team and car. people seem to forget just days ago it was mentioned the williams mirrors are illegal too. never happened according to those blindfolded.

the way this is going, the team won't just not make abu dhabi, they're not gonna make australia next week either.

This is like reading the worst tabloid press. Unfounded, inaccurate, speculatory in the extreme.

Manoah2u
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not unfounded. not inaccurate. at the best speculatory.
look up the facts, they can only be ignored when ostriching and putting the head deep into the ground.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Manoah2u wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 18:48
kptaylor wrote:
06 Mar 2019, 17:38
^Exactly! I haven't seen reliable reporting on the Williams' pieces being illegal other than the few mentions above. I doubt there's any huge investigation going on or it would have been in the reputable news or seen in new technical directives. Maybe some minor changes but we'll see as no mentions of those either.
ignoring everything sure, williams is fine and is gonna win races this year with the most phenomenal driver pairing ever.

in reality, taking blindfolds off, the team is in shambles and the reports just keep coming in on negatives for the team and car. people seem to forget just days ago it was mentioned the williams mirrors are illegal too. never happened according to those blindfolded.

the way this is going, the team won't just not make abu dhabi, they're not gonna make australia next week either.
It had to have hurt to lose the money that came with Stroll. I believe they did the right thing and waited for the F1 money to roll in before they started producing parts. Everything technical lies on paddy's shoulders. He needs to be as good as Newey to take this team to the top.
This team goes as far as he can take them.

garygph
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@Manoah2u
;) is this how you feel on this the Williams topic
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:lol: :wink:

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TwanV
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That's pretty sad, hope you're happy.