2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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A guy from formu1a.com wrote that next upgrade package is scheduled for Budapest, not sure he has a clue though.

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Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points

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chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.

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Dunlay wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:31
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
Agree 👍

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aMessageToCharlie wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:33
Dunlay wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:31
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
Agree 👍
They don't want a really good driver that will challenge Max. Don't you get it?

What is happening is EXACTLY what RBR want. If they didn't want that, they wouldn't have given him a 2 year contract!!!!!

It's RIGHT in front of your noses but you don't see it.

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Dunlay wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:31
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
Not sure why you’re so confident of that. We’ve now seen Perez, Albon and Gasly all struggle massively in the Red Bull over the past 5/6 years. Perez was a more than solid midfield driver prior to joining Red Bull, and a race winner. Since leaving Red Bull, Gasly is also considered a very strong driver who’s also a race winner, Albon likewise is now highly rated at Williams.

Guaranteed if Perez jumped into another team for the rest of the season, he’d also ‘suddenly look good’ again.

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chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
If you want to add a little more perspective, here are the drivers from the other top teams in the last 4 races:

Max: 83
Lando: 67
Charles: 50
Piastri: 46
Russel: 44
Hamilton: 43
Sainz: 33
Perez... 8

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codetower wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 20:02
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
If you want to add a little more perspective, here are the drivers from the other top teams in the last 4 races:

Max: 83
Lando: 67
Charles: 50
Piastri: 46
Russel: 44
Hamilton: 43
Sainz: 33
Perez... 8
I think the lower teams might be a better scale to judge Perez on. :lol:

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https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/13845285 ... e-bezorgen

in this article Erik van Haren should talk about next upgrades for Red Bull, unfortunately it's behind pay wall and I cannot read it.

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Sergej wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 21:26
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/13845285 ... e-bezorgen

in this article Erik van Haren should talk about next upgrades for Red Bull, unfortunately it's behind pay wall and I cannot read it.
“After all, the racing stable hopes to come up with a major update package before the summer break and cannot miss a day.”

https://archive.is/rYIar

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ali623 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:59
Dunlay wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:31
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
Not sure why you’re so confident of that. We’ve now seen Perez, Albon and Gasly all struggle massively in the Red Bull over the past 5/6 years. Perez was a more than solid midfield driver prior to joining Red Bull, and a race winner. Since leaving Red Bull, Gasly is also considered a very strong driver who’s also a race winner, Albon likewise is now highly rated at Williams.

Guaranteed if Perez jumped into another team for the rest of the season, he’d also ‘suddenly look good’ again.
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Watching F1 since 1986.

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Dunlay wrote:
chrisc90 wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:05
Little bit of perspective.

Last 4 Races:

Verstappen: 83 Points
Perez: 8 Points
This is what happenes when money comes above integrity and quality. A driver that has no right to be on the grid is driving the best car on the grid. There are atleast 10 junior drivers who can do far better job than Perez, right from the word go. But we won't see that happening.
And not just money; power struggles too. Pérez was one of the few who publicly stood by Horner through the harassment case. Horner also took charge from Marko when they were negotiating with Sainz. I think Marko has been wanting to get rid of Pérez, but Horner stands in the way. And now Horner is congratulating Perez on P8, so obvious.

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diffuser wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 19:58

They don't want a really good driver that will challenge Max. Don't you get it?

What is happening is EXACTLY what RBR want. If they didn't want that, they wouldn't have given him a 2 year contract!!!!!

It's RIGHT in front of your noses but you don't see it.
Why did they bother to replace Gasly and Albon who were doing the same as Perez?

Perez's money and the marketing makes the difference. That is why he has 2 more years. Perez is not a Red Bull junior. This team never fielded non-Red Bull juniors in their history before Perez.

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 21:50
Sergej wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 21:26
https://www.telegraaf.nl/sport/13845285 ... e-bezorgen

in this article Erik van Haren should talk about next upgrades for Red Bull, unfortunately it's behind pay wall and I cannot read it.
“After all, the racing stable hopes to come up with a major update package before the summer break and cannot miss a day.”

https://archive.is/rYIar
thank you for your link

so it seems confirmed that the big package won't be there in Silverstone, rather in Budapest.

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Sergej wrote:
25 Jun 2024, 23:12
so it seems confirmed that the big package won't be there in Silverstone, rather in Budapest.
It would have been strange bringing it at the last race of a triple header tbh.