Power unit power speculation

All that has to do with the power train, gearbox, clutch, fuels and lubricants, etc. Generally the mechanical side of Formula One.
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Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?

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jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...

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mrluke wrote:
jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
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Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
jknights wrote:Hate to state the obvious but the MGU-K unit does not have infinite power!!

There is and must be a limit.

Currently the limitations (to me) seem to be around the inability of the Pirelli tyres to last and put down the power. However McLaren dont have enough power to really test the tyres or do they?
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.

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mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
We have just established they likely have in excess of 900bhp...
Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/
“To be able to actually make something is awfully nice”
Bruce McLaren on building his first McLaren racecars, 1970

“I've got to be careful what I say, but possibly to probably Juan would have had a bigger go”
Sir Frank Williams after the 2003 Canadian GP, where Ralf hesitated to pass brother M. Schumacher

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Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/
Any evidence for Renault and Ferrari?

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Pierce89 wrote:
mrluke wrote:
Pierce89 wrote: Which sucks when every one else is rocking out 980bhp
Citation needed.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/analy ... er-829341/
Whenever there is a question in a news headline, the answer is always No.

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Juzh
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All very technical and hard to understand correctly with google translate, but this is what I got from it:

Quali power:
Mercedes: 975 hp
Ferrari: 960 hp
Renault: 940 hp

Race "sustained" power:
Mercedes: 940 hp
Ferrari: 940 hp
Renault: 915 hp

I put "sustained" in paragraphs because it's been known mercedes can sustain max or at least higher power for much longer than ferrari or renault. Especially on long straights of any kind.

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Very interesting Blackout.

Especially since Horner has complained about Mercedes and Ferrari using special qualifying modes and Renault not having one.

I'd think that the extra power needed to gain 0.6-0.7s per lap would be more than just the 35hp the article mentions.

Interesting that they are calling Ferrari and Mercedes has having the same power in normal race mode.

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There's no way Ferrari is .7 slower than Mercedes by virtue of an inferior chassis. .3 or .4 maybe, but the rest comes from the power unit.
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@Blackout : Are those Italian journalists getting the GPS feeds from somewhere?