European GP 2011 - Valencia

[CHT]

Has RBR finally sorted out their KERS issue?

[Traction]

the mclaren race pace is a mith im afraid. lets look at just the last 3 races where theyve claimed to have superior race pace.

spain: they were helped greatly by alonso holding up the bulls for the first couple of stints, and then for whatever reason they were the only team able to make the super hard tyre work.

monaco: vettel pulled away from button in te first stint, and then after that vettel went onto the primes and thus ran completely different stratagies, how they can assume they were the fastest is beyond me.

canada: the conditions, had the race been dry i would of been like today, slightly worse pace but tyres falling off and finishin a good 30 seconds behind like turkey.


ferrari are the kings of race pace, and this is coming from a mclaren fan.

Then tney must have the worst drivers cause they ain't winning squat....

Admit, not the most exciting race but the sheer dominance of Vettel over all opposition is breathtaking...helped to watch the race having a few beers though.........almost reminds me of Mansell in his winning year. Considering that Hamilton reckoned they have had the fastest car for awhile now it seems to me the results must be down to the drivers....

[ringo]

The downforce is giving them a lot of breathing space in terms of tyre life.

Hamilton could do no better today.

Any tyre saving and he would be back with Button following Massa.

Ferrari really seem to be quick around this track.

Webber seemed quick at some points, even recovering to come within 2s of vettel, but he just didn't have the tyre presevation down.

It's getting annoying now that Webber can't even beat vettel. He should at least of won 3 races off vettel keeping things close.

Well i hope the silverston reg clarification makes the Mclaren the fastest car for the whole season. I am tired of this redbull domination already.

[ringo]

Well the race promised to be boring and it sadly lived up to this expectation.

Another Vettel win makes up for the poor quality of the race though. Very mature and controlled drive. =D>

At least Hamilton didn't crash. that benefits everyone!

Button's win was a waste of points.

Mclaren need to tell him to move over an let lewis through everytime from now.

From winning to languishing in sixth.

The WCC is out of the question. Mclren need to do like ferrari and put one driver in the fight.

If you can't challenge, then step aside.

That crash in canada may not have happened if Button was more considerate to his teammate; looking back on the incident. Perez let through Kobayashi, today. Shu let through Hamilton. Things may have been a little different in the standings with teams having a #1 driver.

It's working brilliantly for redbull.

[Just_a_fan]

The downforce is giving them a lot of breathing space in terms of tyre life.

Hamilton could do no better today.

Any tyre saving and he would be back with Button following Massa.

Ferrari really seem to be quick around this track.

Webber seemed quick at some points, even recovering to come within 2s of vettel, but he just didn't have the tyre presevation down.

It's getting annoying now that Webber can't even beat vettel. He should at least of won 3 races off vettel keeping things close.

Well i hope the silverston reg clarification makes the Mclaren the fastest car for the whole season. I am tired of this redbull domination already.

Hamilton suggested today that he thinks they'll suffer from the EBD ban. I think McLaren will be looking over their shoulder at Mercedes and Renault not forward at Red Bull.

[ell66]

the only people saying Macca has a better race pace are the fan boys, you have to weigh the message with the messenger...

I am sure somebody will say Macca had a great day, they were just 30 seconds slower than RB and Alonso.

ermm no. have you not listened to any of the interveiws with withmarsh buttonand hamilton?

[raymondu999]

Hamilton said that they had little rear downforce, and more on the front, and so he was suffering from oversteer quite a bit. I guess that makes for part of the large disparity between Button and Hamilton this weekend, as the tail-waggy nature would suit Hamilton a bit more. If the ebd ban reduces rear downforce more; then that can't be good for Macca

[PlatinumZealot]

This track symbolises the whole season; BORING and Vettel is going to win.

[raymondu999]

To be fair I think though the championship is certainly boring, the races (except for today's) are actually quite exciting

[andrew]

This track symbolises the whole season; BORING and Vettel is going to win.

Damn them's are sour grapes. I dare say if your driver was dominating it would be a great season.

The season is a double whammy for me. It's great seeing someone at the top of their game and not disappearing up their own porthole like often happens with success and the driver I support is winning. It's a great season!

[Traction]

This track symbolises the whole season; BORING and Vettel is going to win.

Unlike the seasons where MS dominated year after year

[gridwalker]

Nah, no difference for me. At least there is more interesting stuff going on in the midfield

[Morteza]

I never liked this Valencia track and I think I never will! It seems the nature of this track is to make races boring and does pretty well in doing so. The RB7 is hands of Vettel is unbeatable. The only problem is my mum gets at me the times I'm watching F1 races this season She says you know whose going to win and you still watch this races

[i70q7m7ghw]

This track symbolises the whole season; BORING and Vettel is going to win.

Damn them's are sour grapes. I dare say if your driver was dominating it would be a great season.

The season is a double whammy for me. It's great seeing someone at the top of their game and not disappearing up their own porthole like often happens with success and the driver I support is winning. It's a great season!

There's nothing wrong with Vettel dominating, but he could atleast make it a bit more interesting. Watching a driver drive pole to flag unchallenged for 19 races is always going to be boring.

Regardless, the season is over, this weekend showed that everyone is affected equally with the change in throttle maps, with Ferrari possibly benefitting marginally. Nothing will change in Silverstone.

[Traction]

Actually I wpuld really like to see vettel have a crap pit stop or something and cut his way through the pack, its the stuff that legends are made off and the stuff that keeps people talking for ages. It would also be good for him in regards to remi ding him there are others on the track and its not a one man race. Problem is that hes just so damn good and his car and team are just so awesome the chances are slim.....but lets see what happens...