Mclaren even when they are there or thereabouts in quali trim cannot match a Redbull on race pace. I’ve yet to see it all year. I dont think they will challenge max apart from the start.Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:00In which case Max will get DRS & will try to overtake Bottas who will not have DRS (now that may or may not work).NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:56Oh certainly , I hope Bottas lets Lewis go, then does a good job of backing Max in to the Mclarenszibby43 wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:54
Can you imagine then if Hamilton lost the title by 1 point? And it was simply because they wanted the driver they let go to feel good before dropping to the back for the actual race?
I know you’re not the one deciding, so these pointed questions are aimed at Merc haha! Any other decision would be absolutely farcical by Mercedes, don’t you think?![]()
And Max will have slipstream behind Bottas as well ! I am not sure if that is a great idea for Monza ! The Mclarens are quick enough to overtake RB without Bottas trying some ridiculous idea !
I think it also depends on how much RedBull or Mclaren want to push their engines on that first lap.Hammerfist wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:13Mclaren even when they are there or thereabouts in quali trim cannot match a Redbull on race pace. I’ve yet to see it all year. I dont think they will challenge max apart from the start.Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:00In which case Max will get DRS & will try to overtake Bottas who will not have DRS (now that may or may not work).NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:56
Oh certainly , I hope Bottas lets Lewis go, then does a good job of backing Max in to the Mclarens![]()
And Max will have slipstream behind Bottas as well ! I am not sure if that is a great idea for Monza ! The Mclarens are quick enough to overtake RB without Bottas trying some ridiculous idea !
Merc won’t do it because BOT would foul it up and let that happen. With a fresh engine and a good package this weekend, BOT shouldn’t be anywhere near VER by the sprint’s end.Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:01And give him DRS & slip-stream, great. Only chance for Max to finish 2nd & get 2 points in the Sprint race !zibby43 wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:58I think that’s the perfect strategy.NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:56
Oh certainly , I hope Bottas lets Lewis go, then does a good job of backing Max in to the Mclarens![]()
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That’s the sort of ruthless tactic RBR would employ. And Merc need to get with the program.
exactly this. so could be a lonely race for Max, but all depends on the start.Hammerfist wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:13Mclaren even when they are there or thereabouts in quali trim cannot match a Redbull on race pace. I’ve yet to see it all year. I dont think they will challenge max apart from the start.Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:00In which case Max will get DRS & will try to overtake Bottas who will not have DRS (now that may or may not work).NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:56
Oh certainly , I hope Bottas lets Lewis go, then does a good job of backing Max in to the Mclarens![]()
And Max will have slipstream behind Bottas as well ! I am not sure if that is a great idea for Monza ! The Mclarens are quick enough to overtake RB without Bottas trying some ridiculous idea !
Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:03In the 1st lap of Q3, they were which essentially allowed Max to finish ahead of Norris & Ricciardo !NathanOlder wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:00wtf are you on about. Look at the results! or open your eyes! Lewis was over 3 tenths ahead of Max!Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:57
Which is irrelevant, Bottas will take 2 points & Max 1 in the sprint race (if he can keep the Mclarens behind). Realistically the RB was slower than Mercedes & Mclaren & should have been 5th. To start 3rd for the sprint & potentially 2nd for the race (with Bottas penalty) is great for RB.
And LH was less than 1 tenth ahead while having a car 3-4 tenths ahead & had a tow in his lap, so Max/RB should be happy !
Stop trying to make trouble, you look foolish now you don't even understand how the leaderboard works!
Lewis did improve on the 2nd lap but he was less than 1 tenth ahead of Max in his 1st lap in Q3 & that allowed Max to start in P3 (which can become P2) potentially with Bottas penalty. Being ahead of Bottas & within 1 tenth of Hamilton in his 1st Q3 lap was amazing !
Yeah good point, and 1 extra point means nothing to Bottas now.
Max had a tow from 2 cars, and Lewis had none, that's why we was as close as he was! Did you actually watch qualifying?
Still going with this "double tow" narrative eh? It makes no difference. A tow is a tow, the number of cars ahead has a negligible effect.
It’s not 100%. And it wouldn’t matter anyway with Merc’s pace.Tvetovnato wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 20:32This was not that good for Merc tbh. 100 % that Max will take P2 into turn one tomorrow with the dirty side for Lewis.
Mr.S. I prefer your frequent updates on which car is faster than RedBull in bold text, all caps. Looks a bit better and you give more impact that way. And can I get the updates every 2 posts instead of the current frequency of every 4 posts that you do now? Yeah, that would be great.Mr.S wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:55It probably was. It was mega lap by Max even with the tow (which everyone bar Perez had). Mclaren this weekend is quicker than RB. RB possibly 3-4 tenths down on Merc, Mclaren possibly a tenth quicker or atleast on same pace as RB. Max will struggle to keep Norris behind him with DRS on.Juzh wrote: ↑10 Sep 2021, 19:29So I had a look at some telemetries. It seems norris either had an issue with PU or ran out of charge out of ascari and on the run to parabolica. He was 7 kmh off ricciardo (325 vs 332) and started to de-rate much earlier and harder. Without this it seems P3 was on the cards for him today.
Anyways I think Mercedes did a blunder with Bottas. Their car being 3-4 tenths quicker would have allowed Bottas to get to P2 even with the old engine & if he started P4-P5. P11 or P12 is just too behind. On pure pace, Hamilton, Bottas, Norris & Ricciardo are all quicker than RB. And if the podium is a Hamilton-Verstappen-Norris with Perez finishing ahead of Bottas, RB will be quite happy !