2024 Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay, Sep 20 - 22

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If it's not about what we think it is.. then that's pretty hard to predict isn't it

Danny to RBR and Perez out allowing Lawson in?

Perez and Ricciardo out Lawson and some other driver in.

That would make sense so we can definitely rule it out.

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What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.

Seems it's about team personnel moving.

Usually obbs is tweeting about red bull related things: perhaps a notable recruitment from a rival team has happened.

[Paa]

What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.

Seems it's about team personnel moving.

Usually obbs is tweeting about red bull related things: perhaps a notable recruitment from a rival team has happened.

I think it is more likely about drivers. Maybe Daniel will start some kind of domino (or his leaving is an effect of a domino). There were rumors about Perez retirement as well (although it would be strange so close before Mexican GP)

[AR3-GP]

What is he rattling on about !?
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Dr Obbs
The little birdies are chirping.. news is coming, and it's not what you think it is.

Seems it's about team personnel moving.

Usually obbs is tweeting about red bull related things: perhaps a notable recruitment from a rival team has happened.

Red Bull having something good happen? lol. More likely the opposite. People leaving and he doesn't think it's his news to share.

[Carmack]

This is rich coming after what Norris did to Perez in Baku.
I'm not saying either is wrong, this is racing, just please try not to be a hypocrite.

What did he do differently than Perez in Abu Dhabi 21, putting on his handbrake against Hamilton...get real

Where did I say it was wrong?
Read the post again.

Sorry, quoted the wrong guy, should've quoted one before you.
BR,

[Bill]

it was a mistake for Pirelli to be conservative on the tires .a two strategy would have been better to spice up the race .we used to have supersoft and hypersoft tires. Pirelli was brought into f1 specifically to spice up the show

[Seanspeed]

The rule is that you only can get a point if you're in the points. There is no rule saying you have to be in the points to get the fastest lap.

Yea I wasn't clear on that myself. I knew you had to be in the top 10 to get a point for FL, but I also thought that meant that if somebody outside the top 10 got FL, it didn't count and the point would go to whoever had the FL among the top 10 specifically. Didn't realize it would just mean nobody got a point. lol

Seems like they should fix that. If they insist on keeping FL points(I'd also prefer to get rid of this altogether personally), just ignore the positions below the top 10 entirely if you're only allowed to get a point in the top 10 in the first place.

[vanburin]

it was a mistake for Pirelli to be conservative on the tires .a two strategy would have been better to spice up the race .we used to have supersoft and hypersoft tires. Pirelli was brought into f1 specifically to spice up the show

And then the FIA backtracked on that completely. The notion now from the FIA is to provide tyres which will offer “very little degradation” across all three compounds. It's the FIA pushing the conservative approach Pirelli keeps on claiming, at least publicly, that they are trying to develop tyres that will experience the unforgiving cliff.

[basti313]

I think it is more likely about drivers. Maybe Daniel will start some kind of domino (or his leaving is an effect of a domino). There were rumors about Perez retirement as well (although it would be strange so close before Mexican GP)

German media, who brought up the point on the retirement first if I am not mistaken, said there will surely be no news on Monday to make it not too strange...
There is enough time, I would even be surprised by driver news before end of this week.

And I do not think there is any domino...why? All seats taken for next year?
I think they just swap at RB and check if it makes sense to have a swap at RedBull next year. I do not see any other driver without contract that might make sense...

[TeamKoolGreen]

Here we go again. Franco Colepinto is the next shiny new driver for the partisan crowd to hype. The F1 podcast scene is already full of leading questions about Alex Albon. Is he feeling the pressure from Franco ? blah blah. Albon has some history with Max and Lewis so it all fits. And he's British , just like Lando.

Yes Franco has been good. But so was Zhou in his first few races. He got points in his first race too. And 2022 in general was a tidy piece of business for him.

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Here we go again. Franco Colepinto is the next shiny new driver for the partisan crowd to hype. The F1 podcast scene is already full of leading questions about Alex Albon. Is he feeling the pressure from Franco ? blah blah. Albon has some history with Max and Lewis so it all fits. And he's British , just like Lando.

Yes Franco has been good. But so was Zhou in his first few races. He got points in his first race too. And 2022 in general was a tidy piece of business for him.

1st weekend he finished 12th after starting 18th. Outqualified Albon in his 2nd quali session (first time albon's been outqualified since July 2022 by a teammate). Scored as many points at baku as latifi&Sargeant managed combined in 68 grand Prix. Then qualified 0.007s off Albon and was 1.6s off points in Singapore.

Given how highly Albon is rated by Williams, red bull etc it's not surprising that people are impressed.

If Colapinto doesn't get a race seat for 2025 then we'll at least have Albon benchmarked against Sainz which gives us a good read on Colapinto in turn.

[PlatinumZealot]

The rule is that you only can get a point if you're in the points. There is no rule saying you have to be in the points to get the fastest lap.

Yea I wasn't clear on that myself. I knew you had to be in the top 10 to get a point for FL, but I also thought that meant that if somebody outside the top 10 got FL, it didn't count and the point would go to whoever had the FL among the top 10 specifically. Didn't realize it would just mean nobody got a point. lol

Seems like they should fix that. If they insist on keeping FL points(I'd also prefer to get rid of this altogether personally), just ignore the positions below the top 10 entirely if you're only allowed to get a point in the top 10 in the first place.

It was specifically done to spice up the show when drivers were conserving tyres, engine, and creating safety gaps to "bring the car home" in race and the championship. So that extra point "threat" was really meant for the drivers already in the points who have something to lose.

[Tzk]

Seems like they should fix that. If they insist on keeping FL points(I'd also prefer to get rid of this altogether personally), just ignore the positions below the top 10 entirely if you're only allowed to get a point in the top 10 in the first place.

Well, awarding an award for the fastest lap* in the top10 sounds awkward too. If it's the fastest lap, it should be the fastest overall lap, not the fastest top10 lap. I like the idea that anybody outside the top10 can "steal" the point from the top10 finishers. Usually the backmarkers got nothing to lose, just like Danny. It spices things up a bit.

So in my view nothing to fix here.

[TimW]

Seems like they should fix that. If they insist on keeping FL points(I'd also prefer to get rid of this altogether personally), just ignore the positions below the top 10 entirely if you're only allowed to get a point in the top 10 in the first place.

Well, awarding an award for the fastest lap* in the top10 sounds awkward too. If it's the fastest lap, it should be the fastest overall lap, not the fastest top10 lap. I like the idea that anybody outside the top10 can "steal" the point from the top10 finishers. Usually the backmarkers got nothing to lose, just like Danny. It spices things up a bit.

So in my view nothing to fix here.

Teams outside the top 10 can have a very legit reason to go for the fastest lap, that is to take it away from a team within the top 10 that they are fighting with in the championship. RB is not in a fight with McLaren, but to take a point from e.g HAAS is very relevant.

It also should not become a free bonus point.