2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Newey says Red Bull is struggling to find gains so it's only a matter of time for Ferrari. China is front limited so I expect Ferrari to be in contention. Red Bull is always understeering on Friday.
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Easy 1-2.... in FP1

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 20:31
He did a good job with the 2022 PU though, credit where credit is due.
Sadly for us whiners here, I think you mean 2023 PU. :mrgreen: If that was the reliability and performance level in 2022, there'd have been at least 2 more wins and another 1-2 in Austria :)
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Vanja #66 wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 21:28
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 20:31
He did a good job with the 2022 PU though, credit where credit is due.
Sadly for us whiners here, I think you mean 2023 PU. :mrgreen: If that was the reliability and performance level in 2022, there'd have been at least 2 more wins and another 1-2 in Austria :)
eh, some unreliability was always going to be a thing given that reliability upgrades are allowed under the engine freeze. It just made sense to make PU as powerful as possible and then make it reliable.

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 21:31
eh, some unreliability was always going to be a thing given that reliability upgrades are allowed under the engine freeze. It just made sense to make PU as powerful as possible and then make it reliable.
v1 was actually excellent in every way. v2 from Barcelona was supposed to be 15HP more powerful and equally reliable, but it wasn't. It then had to be detuned by 30HP to recover reliability, so it was -15HP from v1 - but they couldn't revert to v1 because v2 was reliability upgrade on paper :) Those 30HP were then brought back for 2023, or so the rumours said...
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Vanja #66 wrote:
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 21:31
eh, some unreliability was always going to be a thing given that reliability upgrades are allowed under the engine freeze. It just made sense to make PU as powerful as possible and then make it reliable.
v1 was actually excellent in every way. v2 from Barcelona was supposed to be 15HP more powerful and equally reliable, but it wasn't. It then had to be detuned by 30HP to recover reliability, so it was -15HP from v1 - but they couldn't revert to v1 because v2 was reliability upgrade on paper :) Those 30HP were then brought back for 2023, or so the rumours said...
Interesting. Do you have a source for the 30hp number? It’s the first time I hear such concrete numbers.

I always thought that the v2 was detuned to the level of early season level of power.

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Leclerc: “Carlos was stronger in the last few races, I think I understood what to do to fix the warm up. Good layout for the SF-24
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Some sessions are likely to end up wet.
Let's see if the car is as crappy in the wet as the last, what, 15?

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 22:32
Some sessions are likely to end up wet.
Let's see if the car is as crappy in the wet as the last, what, 15?
The last two great rain drivers that Ferrari had were ALO and MSC.
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AR3-GP wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 22:57
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
18 Apr 2024, 22:32
Some sessions are likely to end up wet.
Let's see if the car is as crappy in the wet as the last, what, 15?
The last two great rain drivers that Ferrari had were ALO and MSC.
All recent cars had massive issues with wet and intermediate tyres.

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Yes, the cars have actually been rocketships all along let down by garbage drivers in Vettel, Leclerc and Sainz and Kimi. Especially the first two. We know. No need to remind us.

Moving on, it will be interesting to see if improvements in tyre wear translate into better wear on inters. That's been a big problem for a long time.

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
19 Apr 2024, 00:15
Yes, the cars have actually been rocketships all along let down by garbage drivers in Vettel, Leclerc and Sainz and Kimi. Especially the first two. We know. No need to remind us.
I'm not saying the cars were rocketships or that any driver is garbage. I'm just saying you don't see the full potential without a wet weather specialist in his prime.
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F1-75 pre TD was a monster in any conditions. In Montecarlo before the strategy nonsense Leclerc was easy 0.3+ faster than any other car and pulling away by 10s.

If the car isn’t good there’s nothing the driver can do and the wet/intermediates are even more sensitive to treating them badly.

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Is everything right ? Both drivers not out yet in only practice session

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Seems like ferrari struggling to get the setup right .the car is sliding all over the place during the practice..hope they get it right before the qualifying