2023 Las Vegas Grand Prix - Las Vegas, Nov 16 - 18

[Mogster]

Yes maybe.

Grip doesn’t look to bad in the wet.

[chrisc90]

Yes maybe.

Grip doesn’t look to bad in the wet.

From a quick look on my phone at work, the safety car had a bit of sliding mid corner.

[nick p]

Racing will be interesting on cold tires

[Hoffman900]

Temperatures aren’t going to be far off what they have driven / raced at Spa in, with rain.

I think we’re so use to wanting everything to be perfect that we forget there was a tike when they raced / drove around in conditions like this with barely a shrug.

[organic]

Temperatures aren’t going to be far off what they have driven / raced at Spa in, with rain.

I think we’re so use to wanting everything to be perfect that we forget there was a tike when they raced / drove around in conditions like this with barely a shrug.

Those aren't the sensitive pirellis. Not to mention the current cars are some of the most sensitive in a long time.

[Hoffman900]

Temperatures aren’t going to be far off what they have driven / raced at Spa in, with rain.

I think we’re so use to wanting everything to be perfect that we forget there was a tike when they raced / drove around in conditions like this with barely a shrug.

Those aren't the sensitive pirellis

They’re probably worst. They just didn’t know what good was, relative to today.

[Mogster]

There’s also no one in front so he can see. Mostly spray is the problem rather than aquaplaning.

[Hoffman900]

There’s also no one in front so he can see. Mostly spray is the problem rather than aquaplaning.

Not racing in those conditions is a new phenomenon. Partly because the tires ARE better at moving water. Displaced water becomes airborne water.

I was at a AMA / FIM Superbike race this fall where they raced in a Tropical Storm. The whole spray thing is mostly a F1 and F2 problem.

[organic]

There’s also no one in front so he can see. Mostly spray is the problem rather than aquaplaning.

Not racing in those conditions is a new phenomenon. Partly because the tires ARE better at moving water. Displaced water becomes airborne water.

I was at a AMA / FIM Superbike race this fall where they raced in a Tropical Storm. The whole spray thing is mostly a F1 and F2 problem.

I think the problem is more aero related. The water is lifted off the ground by the tyres and the modern F1 tyres evacuate a lot of water, but the issue that creates the spray is that the aero of the cars distributes the spray high and wide behind

[Hoffman900]

There’s also no one in front so he can see. Mostly spray is the problem rather than aquaplaning.

Not racing in those conditions is a new phenomenon. Partly because the tires ARE better at moving water. Displaced water becomes airborne water.

I was at a AMA / FIM Superbike race this fall where they raced in a Tropical Storm. The whole spray thing is mostly a F1 and F2 problem.

I think the problem is more aero related

Bikes don’t displace as much water.

It’s partly aero related, it helps lift the spray, but F1 tires are displacing a quoted 85 liters of water / second at 300kph. That is A LOT of water thrown about.

[Wouter]

[chrisc90]

Whos getting up at 4-4.30am from the UK for a watch-along then?

Mega early, but kind of want to see what happens 'live' rather than see tweets, news, spoilers before I can watch FP1

[Espresso]

To be fair, he gets $50 million a year to do this and F1 needs to continue growing to help pay that.

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... /10546914/

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F1 doesnt pay for max. RB does and theres already plenty of RB promos to more than double up on his salary. when you only display the drivers for the last 2min of the show you can clearly see how wrongly aligned FOM is.

And to be complete: Max said this (show-)race was not his cup of coffee…but if was in the shoes of the FOM he would probably have done exactly how FOM organized it…

[Wouter]

How F1 drivers seek to gain from "brutal" Las Vegas GP jet lag

The schedule for the Las Vegas GP has given everyone who works in Formula 1 a brutal test in terms of changing time zones and the resultant jet lag.
And things are only set to get worse as the entire circus transits to Abu Dhabi next weekend, going through a 12-hour shift forward in time.

While the whole paddock is in the same boat, the focus is inevitably on the drivers. They may enjoy private jet or business class travel and have physios looking after their every need, but it's still a struggle to be 100% rested and prepared.

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https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/how-f ... /10547326/

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Russell claims that DRS will not be worth more than 1 tenth per straight at Vegas thanks to the low DF setup of the teams

https://www.motorsportweek.com/2023/11/ ... d_id=43894

Could be rough for overtaking